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Old 10-08-2006, 02:08 PM   #11
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ok so I bought the tank. It has a protein skimmer with it. The tank is 135 gallons.

Now, looking at buying these. Thoughts?

http://cgi.ebay.com/150-Gallon-Aquar...ayphotohosting

Besides, sand, rock and fish what else besides this kit would I need?

I think I want to get an R.O??? Only thing is someone told me the filters for those are expensive. Please help.
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Old 10-08-2006, 06:50 PM   #12
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Power heads, heater/s, refractometer, lights, salt. I can't answer for that product, I don't use a skimmer.
I believe you van find a decent RO/DI off of ebay.
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I have a heater from my freshwater aquarium. I can always buy another if need be. Thats not an issue.

Also the bubble maker that goes in the sand and shoots bubbles up. What is that called?

http://cgi.ebay.com/150-Gallon-Aquar...ayphotohosting

In that link, would you buy it? Is there anything wrong with it? I am thinking of buying that, seems like a good price, then looking for an R/O Filter.

I also heard you can go to the store and buy salt to put into the tank??? Any thoughts? I want to be able to use my hose, fill up the sump, have it auto filtered and then go into tank. Trying to make this as maintenance free as possible. Please help asap.
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Also the bubble maker that goes in the sand and shoots bubbles up. What is that called?
Not needed! If you are referring to an UGF. Actually, the one that shoots bubbles up is not a good idea in SW or needed.
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I also heard you can go to the store and buy salt to put into the tank??? Any thoughts? I want to be able to use my hose, fill up the sump, have it auto filtered and then go into tank. Trying to make this as maintenance free as possible. Please help asap.
I premix my water for at least 24 hours. I just add a ph, water, salt and a heater, test and adjust accordingly. I wouldn't suggest putting the salt mix directly in the tank. Remember, water evaporates, not the salt. So do your top offs with FW.
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I'm so sorry to be so dumb. Just have read and read and read but I'm new to this. Did you check that ebay link I sent you? I am trying to figure out how to make this is low maintenance as poss. ONLY thing I have right now is a skimmer, tank and stand.

If I bought a kit like the one in the link I provided, would that work for me? I am sure I need a sump, bio balls, and return. That all seems to be included in that kit. Again please idiot proof what I need to buy for now. I'm buying everything then mounting the tank around what I need then goes the filling up part.

As far as the bubble things, I just like the look of them. But if not feasable we will not get them.
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Sorry, I can't help you on sump/fuge stuff, I don't use them....
It looks like a nice little set up. I didn't find a brand name so, I can't tell you if it is good or not. Hopefully some one else might be able to assist.
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Again please idiot proof what I need to buy for now.
Hope this doesn't come out sounding wrong, but that really isn't possible! What I mean is that YOU need to figure out what type of system you NEED, depending on what you want in your tank. Although I'm very new to this, one thing I learned quick is that if you ask three different people how to do something, you're going to get five different answers. Everyone will have their opinion. You have to decide WHY they do what they do, then decide if you agree or want to try a different way.

Yeah... I know - you want a list of what exactly to buy. A local fish store will probably be more than happy to sell you whatever they have on their shelves. But in reading over these posts, I just feel like you want a cookbook answer to having a marine aquarium, and from what I can tell so far, that's just a recipe for disaster. So many people just go off and do whatever their fish store or internet forum (oops!) tells them to do without really understanding the "whys" of what it is they're doing.

But regarding your sump question... it sure looks like that sump is made of glass. Maybe I'm missing something in the description, but I didn't see where it said what it was made from. Shipping something that big - made of glass - for only $25??? From CA to FL??? Hmmmm. I'd definitely ask some questions there before buying. And as noted by roka, I don't see any brand names anywhere so I'd be asking questions there too.

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You mentioned that you already have a skimmer? That sump kit has a skimmer also. You don't need two. Also... if you put enough live rock in your tank, you don't need the bio-balls either. Normal suggestion for live rock is 1-2 lbs per gallon. Again - know where you're going with your tank before you buy equipment or you'll probably end up either really frustrated or having to buy different stuff down the road in a few months.
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The link pretty much appears to be a DIY sump system, where the seller gathered all the equipment and is selling it as a package. You do not necessarily need a sump (I like them as they hide all of the equipment (heater, skimmer).

I would stay away from the bubble wand.

If you could tell us what you would like in your tank, we can give you better answers (or are you still going with the clown, blue hippo tang, crabs etc...) and do you want corals?

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You are going to have to do some research yourself

You may wish to get a couple of books and read up on setting up SW tanks. One that I like covers Reef, FOWLR, and FO systems. It is:
"The Simple Guide to Mini-Reef Aquariums" by Jeffery Kurtz, TFH Publications (c)2005
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I know for sure I want colorful fish, like clowns, etc. I would like some anemones, coral. I want some starfish, would LOVE to have seahorses if feasable.


I'm a lazy person. Just being honest. I grew up going to this restaurant that had a huge saltwater aquarium and you could sit by it and eat. I want to build something like this in my home. This is why I was thinking of a sump, to make the tank maintenance free.

So lets say I have the tank and protein skimmer now. I run the tubing for protein skimmer, fill the tank with water from a hose, and put liverock and sand in there.

How do I make the water salty? What do I need to sustain life in this aquarium?


For my freshwater tank I had a heater, 2 filters, and every month or so did a gravel scoop, changed the filters, and that was it. When I did a water change I put aquasafe in teh tank it was really easy. Looking for something similar with my saltwater tank where I just invest in what I need to keep the fish alive and then enjoy the fish.

I like the sump idea cuz the water level in teh tank will never go down. You just add water to the sump, is cycled through the R/O and fed cleanly into the tnk. That was my thought anyways.
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I'm a lazy person. Just being honest. I grew up going to this restaurant that had a huge saltwater aquarium and you could sit by it and eat. I want to build something like this in my home. This is why I was thinking of a sump, to make the tank maintenance free.
At least your honest! And while a well-thought out marine aquarium can be EASY to maintain, it will not be maintenance free. Laziness and marine aquariums, from what I can tell, is a recipe for disaster. Freshwater aquariums and fish seem to have a larger margin for error and more tolerance to poor housekeeping. Marine aquariums don't.

Regarding making the water salty, you will need a place to mix and store saltwater. That's pretty much a given. You do NOT want to mix salt mix directly in your tank or sump. But as I mentioned before, I'm sure we can find someone that says it's OK and they've been doing it for years! But you better start thinking about how you're going to store and transfer about 25-30 gallons per month that will be required for water changes every couple weeks. You can buy a variety of different saltwater mixes, each with it's own different parameters and plus and minuses. Personally, I'm using "Reef Crystals" - because it dissolves quick, gives me extra calcium/etc, and gives me the salinity and pH that I want with no extra additives required.

I don't have a sump as I don't have the room available right now where my tank is. But if I did, I would. Sumps allow you to keep the heaters/skimmer/filters out of the tank and make a nicer looking tank in my opinion. They're also easier to get to for water changes, etc. If you want easy maintenance (not NO maintenance!) I'd look at incorporating a sump.
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