I think the misinterpretation of your post is warranted, as your sentence implied otherwise. Regardless, I did not post that with any hostility towards your post, was just stating that it was an incorrect statement.
@agarciajr, many of us try our best to move the new hobbyists towards fishless cycling. It is in my opinion, and many others, that cycling with fish should be washed out of the hobby. Part of looking for help is looking for the right way to do things. I believe "helping in the bast way possible" runs along the lines of treating fish in a humane manner, no? On my current tank, I continue to face a hugely unintended cycle with fish in a rather heavily planted tank. It's not fun having to do water changes constantly, when I know all too well the benefits of cycling without fish. Fish behave differently under toxic conditions, and it isn't pleasing to watch.
I'll leave the forum now, though, since SW
is not my place. Best of luck to you all.