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Old 10-27-2005, 04:45 PM   #11
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something that really worked for me was buying seawater from the LFS. At 22gal, it shouldn''t be to expensive, probably less that the salt mix, and you don't need to worry about filtering your fresh water.

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Old 10-27-2005, 05:52 PM   #12
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This is probably the single best article I've seen on QT.


I agree with john0087 that you should be sure you have pure water going into the tank. Also one of the best things I ever purchased was a good protein skimmer. Although they may not be entirely necessary they give the aquarist a little more room for error. You can usually find some good deals on a used HOB skimmer like a CPR BakPak or a Remora.
I would get around 1-1.5lbs/gal liverock. This with the skimmer is all the filtration you need.


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Old 10-28-2005, 02:56 AM   #13
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well, from what i understand a protein skimmer is out of my budget. The previous comment about the silicone absorbing copper does concern me though. So, even if i totally empty out my current tank and start over with new sand/liverock etc, the copper will still remain? if this is the case, then perhaps i should make my current aquarium the QT tank and look for another 20-30 gallon tank for my setup. I do plan on starting totally over, the tank that is running now for all intensive purposes is done. I will be changing out the carbon filtration, as well as totally cleaning both filters and the tank. Ok: this is as strait up of a question as can be asked. I have a 20 gallon empty aquarium that previously had copper in it, two filters an aquaclear 20 and a millenum 2000. I plan on buying another tank for a QT tank, and building a sump. where do i go from here? please advise.
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Old 10-28-2005, 09:33 AM   #14
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I would replace a coppered tank if it was 55gallons and below in size.. cutting out all the silicone is a job.. but if you plan on keeping it.. I would still remove all of the silicone and replace it..
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Old 10-28-2005, 11:44 AM   #15
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That sounds like a good idea to use your current tank as a QT since it has contained copper, and gettin a new main tank. Using the rubermaid tub for a sump is a good, inexpensive method. I have not used the filters you are speaking of, so I cant say anything there, though.
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Old 10-28-2005, 04:43 PM   #16
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Several people use totes as sumps. They are cheap but need to be replaced after a few years of use. They get brittle. The guy that made my custom tank messed it up and had to make me a new one. Since I had to wait so long and helped him re-sell the one he sent me that was bad he made me a nice 1/2" acrylic 120gal refugium for free.
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Old 10-31-2005, 01:59 AM   #17
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IMO, you should try and sell everything you have purchased. You can keep the heater, thermometer, hydrometeor, test kit, and w/e other chemicals you have. Go out and buy a 24g nano cube(for under 200 dollars it comes with great lighting and filtration system)

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once you get the rock, sand, and water put in, drop a shelled raw shrimp in the tank. Wait 4 weeks. Test the water for no traces of ammonia, nitrates or nitrites. Then go ahead and start adding things slowly. You should really do as much reading as you possibly can before you decide to do whatever you're going to do. IMO the nano cube setup would be most cost effective and beneficial for you. Good luck.

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