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Old 10-07-2012, 02:10 AM   #21
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I don't agree. You can make your own LED lights for really cheap, own stand, own skimmer, sump, etc. There are many who are trying to find the cheapest way to keep a reef tank and it's all in the maintenance and water quality really. Lighting is key, protein skimmers are not (but they are very helpful). Frequent water changes will keep parameters in check and it's all up to the husbandry..the equipment just helps with the upkeep. Not that I was alive, but not too long ago the technology wasn't as advanced as it is today so there were other methods to keep reefs looking great. Go with base rock instead of live and you'll save a bunch of money. Other wise you could be looking at $400-600 just on rock!
Yea I will agree a skimmer is not a necessity I just added it in since they seemed like they wanted to include one and LED lights can still cost a pretty penny for a large tank, atleast around me.

Base rock is nice but including Live rock will still help. And yes the equipment isn't the key, like you've said the husbandry and maintenance are key. Yet, the lighting is going to play a huge role in coral growth with many corals being photosynthetic and relying on the lighting to survive.

I posted up a DIY skimmer btw but it mostly works best on nano tanks. I also have a DIY sump out of a 20g long tank which saved a ton of money but still consider the cost of your return pump, plumbing, lighting, and any filtration.
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No doubt that the lighting is the exception to my statement. Without it the corals would obviously die. LEDs are super expensive, but there are some good cheap ones around like $250 a fixture..or you could buy some 3 watt LEDs and wire them. Not much of a DIY person myself, but it would definitely save hundreds to be handy! BTW corals don't carry out the process of photosynthesis. If they did, they would be considered plants (and clams would be considered plants too), but they aren't, corals are animals. They have a symbiotic relationship with algae that grows on them so that's why they require light. Try finding a great deal on craigslist and negotiating...there are some setups I find on craigslist that are 100 gallon for $300. AndrewPistol got a 150 gallon tank stand and plumbing for $100! Look around!
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I didn't mean coral we're photosynthetic I had just forgotten what the full zooaxel named stuff that they use inside of them was called! Lol

I forgot how to explain how they co-exist with the photosynthetic organism in them that they use to produce food works lol.

And I didn't realize they didn't already have the tank -_-

Make sure you cycle it all the way!!!
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No worries, just wanted to let you know in case you didn't. Oh..I didn't know they had it either. Should prob. stop skimming the text...
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No worries, just wanted to let you know in case you didn't. Oh..I didn't know they had it either. Should prob. stop skimming the text...
+1 team work bro! Lol
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Yeah! *epic high five* Fishfreak1, hope you can make it happen! Eheim, koralia, marineland etc. for pumps/powerheads are good. Sunlight supply, aquaticlife, etc are good for T5 HOs, etc.
I'd suggest shopping on marinedepot, bulkreefsupply, an other online stores that are more towards aquariums instead of all pets like PETCO. If you find deals on other stores go ahead, but those stores can be good references for the types of equipment, reviews, informational videos, etc.
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I have loved my T5HO lights from Coralife. Here's a few pics of my 36" setup.
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Finally remembered what the lil photosynthetic guys are called in Zoanthids! Zooxanthellae!
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Make sure the T5 you get is H.O not H.E ...if you plan to have coral
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