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Old 05-24-2013, 05:51 PM   #11
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Being that they appeared in the first week of the cycle, is this good or bad that they have appeared to fast and is this any indication of what stage the cycle is in? Some people say have said its the start of the cycle and others say its at the end ...
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Old 05-28-2013, 04:31 PM   #12
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So as I mentioned it appears there are some copepods swimming around and a ton of them at that ... My question is about the water readings.. My Ammonia and nitrite have been at 0 for about 3 days now but the nitrate seems to have gone up to 80 out of the blue. I did a small water change yesterday seeing if that may lower the nitrates but its the same today... Any thoughts? Should I do another water change or just let is ride? I was stoked to see the ammonia and nitrites go to zero .. thanks.
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Old 05-28-2013, 06:50 PM   #13
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Nitrates are a sign your cycle is done. Do a pwc and you should be ready. As long as ammo and nitrites are 0.
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Old 05-28-2013, 07:50 PM   #14
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Did you ever see a spike in amm? From memory you didn't use anything to cycles the tank, just rocks? If not you may have had a weak cycle, just be careful when adding fish. One at a time then wait a few weeks In between, test the water daily just to make sure there are no changes in parameters.
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:46 AM   #15
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Thank guys for your help on this.. Yes Bectan, I did have a spike in ammo and around this time the algea started and still remains with the addition of algae on the sand bed now. The Ammo and Nitrite have now been at zero for about 4 days but the Nitrate has now gone up to around 80 and wont go down. I did a 5 gallon water change yesterday with the hopes of getting the Nitrates down but no luck.. I don't want to add any livestock until things are 100% good to go. Should I wait a couple of days and do another 5 gallon water change. I could be wrong, but from what I've been hearing, Nitrates wont go down on their own and that water changes will change this. I've also been using the API test kit for everything but some people on here say they have not had good luck with the API Nitrate kit... Any pointers would be great guys, thanks again.
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Cool, I use the API kits too and find them to be ok particularly when your first starting out. I would do a much bigger water change to bring those nitrates down. You bb lives in your rocks and sand so feel free to do a big one, 10 even 20g then you should be ready for fishes!
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Old 05-29-2013, 10:43 AM   #17
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So you said you had an ammonia spike. Do you know how much it was? Did you see a nitrite spike? It seems to me a little fast for a full cycle but its possible. I would say your friend has some high nitrates in his tank which is why yours are so high now. You difinitely want to get that down before adding anything. There is a good way to test to see if your cycle is complete or not. Get some pure ammonia. Ace Hardware usually carries it. Make sure it does not contain any surfactants. A sure fire way to tell is to shake the bottle. It is foams up but it back. Pure ammonia will not foam up. Add 1 drop of ammonia at a time and test until you get an ammonia reading of about 1-2ppm. Wait 12 hours and test again. If you get any ammonia or nitrite reading you are not done with your cycle. If your readings are zero after 12 hours then you are cycled. Just need to do a 30-40% water change to get those nitrates down. If you get any ammonia or nitrite readings after 12 hours let me know what the readings are so I can tell where you might be at in the cycle and i can walk you through how to complete it. It needs to have a constant source of ammonia or your cycle will stall and bacteria will start to die off.
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Oh, and dont worry about the diatoms. They will come and go as your tank matures. Your tank will go through many stages of ugly during the first year. Just keep up with your maintenance and watch your feedings and it will balance out.
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Thanks for the help everyone! So here is a little update and please give me your thoughts. It has been almost 2 weeks since my ammonia and nitrite have been at "0". My Nitrates have hovered around 80 this entire time but have slowly started to go down over the last day or two thanks to a couple of water changes but not much.
The diatom bloom has been weird.. it seems like it stopped and now has formed a bit around my power head and the back walls of the tank. Now, there seems to be a green algae type bloom which some looks like green hair. (Yes, Donniea, I did have an ammonia and nitrate spike that has went down and has been at "0" for almost 2 weeks, but the nitrates have stayed around 80).
My question is that now that my readings have been at "0" for those two but have had high nitrates, should I just continue to do the water changes until they drop? Should I get a small CUC to help with the algae? and if so, what should I get? (snails, hermits, etc.)

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So, I did the water change and now the Nitrates dropped to 40 and I would assume they will drop some more after another water change in a couple days. I guess not I need to start thinking about the CUC. Any thoughts on how many and what I should get? (again, 29 gallon biocube).. Thanks.
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