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Old 05-30-2011, 12:58 PM   #11
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You need enough ammonia to spike both the nitrites and nitrates. I just want to make sure he doesn't put in ammonia, see the nitrite spike, and everything drop to 0 because it ran out of a source without ever spiking the nitrates.
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Old 05-30-2011, 01:27 PM   #12
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no it wasn't :T the lfs guy said it was okay as long as it was moist, so they were transported in a wet newspaper inside a box :'(
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Old 05-30-2011, 01:40 PM   #13
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does this mean that my live rock is now void of any beneficial bacteria?
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Old 05-30-2011, 01:45 PM   #14
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No. It means that it is producing ammonia as we speak. Not alot but some. Thats what you want. The die off from the rock can start your cycle.

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You best bet is to test for ammonia, and if it is 0 that may be because your rock's bacteria is eating it. If you don't think your tank has cycled, or if you're just unsure, put in a raw shrimp from the seafood section of your local grocery store, cost you maybe 50cents. Do some more tests after a few days ( ammonia, nitrite, nitrate) if the 1st to stay at 0 and you have some nitrate then you've cycled. If you see any ammonia spike, then let the cycle happen.
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Old 05-30-2011, 03:22 PM   #16
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I just added the ammonia however the guide I was following that said to add 3 spoons of it might not have applied to me I think :/ , I am testing the ammonia and it is going over 8 ppm (highest measurable)

I already tried to do a partial water change and it did not seem to bring my levels down :T , what can I do to bring the ammonia levels down? (is it required to do so?)

Also, if I get some seeding material from a lfs today, will this help? Thank you for the help :T
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You'll have to wait and see what others say. I only have experience with seeding the cycle with the shrimp and know it worked well. If you are trying to cycle the last thing you'd want to do is a water change. The main reason people will do a water change is if they are trying to cycle a tank with fish in it ( a big no no! poor fish shouldn't have to go through that) It wil increase the amount of time it takes to cycle, but give the fish a better chance of surviving.
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I would do a water change AGAIN to get the ammonia down to 4-5ppm. Its easier to deal with at that level. I overdosed my first tank too lol it took like 4 pwc's to get the ammonia down. But I ended up cycling in about a week. I had 35lbs of lr in a 29g tank.
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Thank you carey ^__^ i just got back from the fish store because I needed more salt mix, I also got some filter media as well.

I will go ahead and continue to do partial water changes until I get down to 4-5 ppm, I was just discouraged and worried because it was so high even after a large water change.
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I totally freaked out when I overdosed the ammonia. I completely understand.

Just do what your doing, you can't really mess anything up in a day or so, so don't worry so much. easier said than done though lol
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