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Old 12-09-2005, 11:14 AM   #1
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hypo water ?

i got a flame angel 4 days ago he had a few specks of what the lfs said it was a fungus, we today i wake up and fing his body covered with specks which i assume is ick, now after a few hours they are gone, i am not going to take any chances i am going to start hypo + he is in my 10 gallon qt tank,the question i have do i do 1gallon water changs every 6 hrs until i hit 1.009sg over a 48hr time frame
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That might be too quick. You probably would be better off doing every day. I`m not a hypo expert so maybe one of them can help. I just know you have to go down slowly.
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1.011 is enough if you have a refractometer and watch the evaporation. 1.009 is accurate if using a hydrometer. Bringing it down to correct salinity in 48 hours is correct. Just make sure you do not bring it back up that fast. I drain water out and start a slow fresh water siphon/drip so it will drop steady and slow. Just be sure to keep a steady check on the salinity so you do not go to low.
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1.011 is enough if you have a refractometer and watch the evaporation. 1.009 is accurate if using a hydrometer. Bringing it down to correct salinity in 48 hours is correct. Just make sure you do not bring it back up that fast. I drain water out and start a slow fresh water siphon/drip so it will drop steady and slow. Just be sure to keep a steady check on the salinity so you do not go to low.
i thought you are not supposed to use a hydrometer,i got a refractormeter,i thought you bring the salinty to 1.009, like i said after a few hrs the spots are gone but i dont want to take a chance when i introduce him to the main tank.i am going to go with 20% every 12hrs
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1.009 is allowing for the error in a hydrometer. 1.011 is effective if it is monitored correctly with a refractometer. The fish needs to be in hypo for a min of 4 weeks after the last "spot" is observed. Bring the salinity down in a period of around 48 hours. Raise it much slower. Fish can handle a drop in salinity much better than a increase.
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I just recently finished a successful hypo. It took me two months all in all.

I would say that refractometers are much more accurate than hydrometers. I would say that if you can, calibrate your hydrometer to a good working refractometer. However, why use a fork to eat your soup when you have a spoon, right?

I would also advise that you bring down the specific gravity to about 1.010 (if hydrometer is used, just to be safe) in the course of 3-4 days. 2 days is a little too fast, especially that it's a QT where water volume makes the parameters change faster.

When you're done, slowly bring back the sg to 1.024. This is the one that takes forever. I would advise to raise the sg by 0.02 - 0.03 every week for the next 5 - 6 weeks. Then drip acclimate your Flame back to your display for 4 - 5 hours.

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I just restated info that was given to me by the "MAN". It worked great for me.
1.009 is allowing for margin of error in a hydrometer. If you have a refractometer and you consistently monitor and compensate for evaporation a level of 1.011 is correct.
Salinitylevels need to be brought down to 1.011 in a 48 hour period.
Bringing salinity from 1.011 to 1.025 over a period of a week is slow enough, 5-6 weeks is not needed.
Maybe the "MAN" himself will chime in. Steve-s you out there?
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watch the amonia when it drops down i had a huge cycle wich caused some bacterial problems wich were worse than the ich in a 10g it should be not so bad i hypoed the main and did in about #60 of rock with it wich is were im shure the major die off was from
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I know Hypo is the preferred method on this site, but for those of us that could never manage to capture everything in a 175 with out losing it all and then needing a 125 for QT, I have had great success with Garlic. I use kent Garlic extreme and I use a lot of it! I had two breakouts in the main and within a week the spots stopped coming back daily and no relapses. Of course, I do everything in an unconventional way, so this may not be for everyone, but when you do not have a choice it is nice to know there is an alternative. Good luck!
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thanks for the replies, i took out my little live rock when i started dropping my salinty,i have bare bottom and just pvc , and a fake oranment for caves, got my salinty to 1.010 as of tonight and he is doing fine and eating, i also buffered the ph so i am good to, the one thing i learned is qt all your new fish i bought him from a local dealer that i have purchasd fish from and trust him, so i am glad he was not in my main tank
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