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Old 01-13-2011, 06:33 PM   #61
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Would either of those be a possibility?
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:51 PM   #62
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sure..i would be worried about adding any butterfly though, as they are not really reef safe.
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:53 PM   #63
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Ok, so no butterfly. Anything special I should know about the Ocean Surgeon? (Other than to not try to pet it...)
And what about a Molly Miller Blenny?
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lol...it's not like that. i don't know anyone, nor have i ever read anything about anyone getting sliced by a tangs spines. i had a clown tang nip at my hand a bit, but that's about it.

the butterfly may prove to be ok. it's impossible to know without trying it.

here is a partial list of caribbean fish-
Fish Gallery - Caribbean | Reef Environmental Education Foundation (REEF)

here are more (you'll have to weed through these)
http://www.oceanlight.com/fish.html
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Old 01-13-2011, 07:29 PM   #65
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Ya, people usually get cut when the fish has a hook in its mouth and is flopping on the deck of a boat.
Hmm... this is tricky. Maybe I could lock in the blue Caribbean tang and talk to my lfs about the surgeon to see if I could even get one. Could I get away with a flameball/flameback angelfish? (in addition to to the cherub angel)
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hard to say. in a 210 it might be ok. i've never kept more than 1 angel in a tank, so i couldn't tell you for sure, and it's really up to the individual fish as well. some folks might keep certain fish and have absolutely no problems with them, while others might have the same fish in their tanks wreak havoc.
all we have are basic guidelines to go by. the rest is up to mother nature.
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Old 01-14-2011, 05:12 PM   #67
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I do agree, predicting behavior of any animal is hit and miss.
My next biggest concern is the work bench I am planning to put the tank on. It is 73"X30" on the top. When I was planning for a 55 gallon tank, it was no problem. But now I am putting the equivalent of a small CAR on it. I think it could take it but I am not 100% positive. I am planning to reinforce the joints at least with metal fittings. The little metal feet are from my dad. There is a radial arm saw next to the table and he liked to use the bench to support things while he was cutting. I plan to lower or remove them all together.

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you should go to a fish store and check out the stand that they sell for a 210. compare it to this table.
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Old 01-16-2011, 09:09 PM   #69
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I went to the local store, took a look at their stands, and I am pretty sure the table will hold the weight. I am definitely going to reinforce the joints with shelf mountings, the rest I am going to get my Dad's help as he is very good at this sort of thing. While I was at the store, I also talked to the man there about getting live rock and sand from him, and his price, is about half of what it would cost me to get it online, and it is much better quality. He also can get me the livestock for a much more reasonable price as he has things sent to the airport and then picks them up personally. He did however point out that because of new policies and the oil spill, it is going to be more difficult to get caribbean species. So I have decided to let myself wander a little. Here is my new stocking list. I am open to suggestions and alternatives.

210 Gallon tank setup V4
380 lb Florida Live Sand
-30 lb in sump for 1-2” sand bed in refugium
-For 4-5” bed for Jawfish/ Neon Wrasse
360 lb Caribbean Live Rock
2 Peppermint Shrimp
-Lysmata wurdemanni complex
1 Fighting Conch
-Strombus alatus
1 Arrow Crab
-Stenorhynchus seticornis
2 Emerald Crab
-Mithraculus sculptus
3(+?) Nassarius Snails
-Nassarius vibex
20(+?) Scarlet Reef Hermit Crabs
-Paguristes cadenati
20(+?) Astraea Turbo Snail
-Astraea tecta
20 (+?) Dwarf Blue Leg Hermit Crabs
-Clibanarius tricolor
1 Pincushion Urchin or tuxedo urchin
-Lytechinus variegates/ Mespilia globulus
4 Scarlet Skunk Cleaner Shrimp
-Lysmata amboinensis
1 Red Brittle Star
-Ophiocoma sp
1 Porcelain Crab
-Petrolisthes sp
Chaetomorpha Algae
-Chaetomorpha sp
-In 40 gallon breeder tank sump
1 Rock Flower Anemone
-Epicystis crucifer
1 Colored Cluster Duster
-Bispira brunnea
1 Royal Gramma (Fairy) Basslet
-Gramma loreto
3 Neon goby
-Elacatinus oceanops
1 Flame Cardinalfish
-Apogon spp.
1 Pygmy (Cherub) Angelfish
-Centropyge argi
2 Yellowhead Jawfish
-Opistognathus aurifrons
-Plastic Mesh cover
1 Blue caribbean tang
-Acanthurus coeruleus
1 Sailfin tang
-Zebrasoma veliferum
4 Carpenter’s Flasher wrasse
-1 male, 3 female harem
-Paracheilinus carpenteri
1 Ocean Surgeonfish/ Naso Tang
-Acanthurus bahianus/ Naso lituratus
1 Fireball Angelfish/ Flameback Angelfish (African)
-Centropyge aurantonota/ Centropyge acanthops
1 Orange Lined Cardinalfish
-Apogon cyanosoma
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There are only a handful or less of reputable Atlantic wholesalers in the country and as far as I know they are not having any trouble providing fish so I would check with another fish store. It's more likely he just doesn't have that good of a connection in a wholesaler or he just wants to point the blame elsewhere. In general, Atlantic animals will be more expensive than fish from other ocean realms.
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