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Old 02-28-2004, 05:16 PM   #11
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Wow this whole thead bums me out as I am nearing the end of cycling my first SW with a DSB! I'm wondering if I should do away with it now before I start to add livestock.

I'd be interested in hearing more people's thoughts on this. What are those of you that are moving away from DSB's going to use ?


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Old 02-28-2004, 05:26 PM   #12
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Would like to read the article but the link is forbidden.........at least for me
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Old 02-28-2004, 05:29 PM   #13
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go to www.reef-aquarium.net and go down to the link for "Deep Sand Bed"
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Old 02-28-2004, 05:30 PM   #14
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Alot of people are going back to bare bottom! I personally like the look of some sort of sand bed. Mybe i will just use a 1" sandbed. That is easy enough to get rid of should something happen to it!
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Old 02-28-2004, 06:00 PM   #16
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No problem...let me know if it helps.


The dbs is obviously a hot topic right now, but I would strongly encourage anyone that is worrying about theirs or deciding what direction to go w/ your substraight....please read that article. Its by DR. Ron, so you know that its from a reputable person in the hobby and its very informative. Its very easy to read.
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Would like to read the article but the link is forbidden.........at least for me
I fixed the link, if there is a defined abbreviation in you link, it will screw it up, if you don't parse them.

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please read that article. Its by DR. Ron, so you know that its from a reputable person in the hobby and its very informative. Its very easy to read.
It was also written prior to his salt study and his OTS findings. Since that article was written, he is (and this is complete hearsay, I haven't read it from him, one of those I read it somewhere) reported to have said a DSB CANNOT work long term.

I would suggest you research as much as possible and then make an informed decision. Do not take the advice of just one person, get as many educated opinions as possible, then form your own from that info. People jumped on the DSB bandwagon several years ago...now they seem to be jumping on a different bandwagon.

I personally do not use a DSB in my display tank, I do have a DSB in my fuge, where it can be removed. I no longer encourage people to use DSBs, I do encourage them to research and make a decision, then if they need help, I will tell them how to set one up.
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Would you have a link to any of his more recent opinions? We definately want to keep the most current info on the site. That article was out of an online magazine from a few months ago, so unless they put an old article in a new mag...How could it be out of date?
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It looks to be very close to this one, which has been around for years...

http://www.rshimek.com/reef/sediment.htm

OK, I did a search of RC and found that the good Dr is still recommending DSBs. Here are a couple of threads, related to OTS that I found interesting, the first being the thread that started it all...

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...k+and+syndrome

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...k+and+syndrome

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...k+and+syndrome

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...k+and+syndrome

So, apparently the article is not "out of date", but is still simply him throwing something together, cause many places are simply quotes from his original DSB article. In a way, I am glad to see that the reports are false, but I think EVERYONE, needs to get information from more than one source and consider all opinions, the reason being, they are all opinions, and a phd behind someones name makes their opinion only a tad bit more valid than someone that has been doing the research for years, but happens to be a house painter by profession.
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but I think EVERYONE, needs to get information from more than one source and consider all opinions, the reason being, they are all opinions, and a phd behind someones name makes their opinion only a tad bit more valid than someone that has been doing the research for years, but happens to be a house painter by profession.
I couldn't agree more. And house painters don't seem to be as full of themselves as Dr's

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