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Old 10-29-2012, 07:28 AM   #11
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Here is the a-z for saltwater tank
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:31 AM   #12
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This will tell you all for a salt water tank
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:34 AM   #13
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WOW.... you just jumped into the deep end with no floaties. At least you are lucky that this is a fish-only with no corals, or at least it appears so.

Couple of basic questions.... First & foremost, are you willing to really learn this, because you are in for a steep uphill battle, especially in a "long distance relationship" where you are not around the tank. Saltwater tanks are difficult enough to maintain, having to travel to the tank just compounds the problem & stress. It is very doable, but you've got a lot to learn (and do). How much is the pet deposit?? If you're really wanting to do this correctly, it may be worth ponying up and get the tank home....
I did! I think there may have been corals at some point. I remember the original owner telling me about them. But I wouldn't even know how to ID them...I'm sure they are long gone now. I am the only one willing to do it for the time being...so guess so. Pet deposit is affordable but it counts toward my total number of allowable pets and I work in dog rescue and need to have the space available for fosters. Also, I am afraid to move it and being a rent house, I will eventually move again. I am gonna keep with the long distance for now. I am also caring for a few other critters at the same location, so I travel there anyhow.

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I've been in the hobby for about a year now and I can tell you for sure, you are feeding too much. Also you need to to more frequent water changes. Check your nitrates
How frequent? For how long? How do I know how much to feed?



AHHH!!! I have so many questions and I haven't even read all of the posts yet. I need to get to work, but will try to be back for some more learnin' later. Thank you all SOOO much. It is so much easier to understand when I can ask all of my questions without being rushed or just reading an article...THANK YOU!!!
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:06 AM   #14
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We're happy to help however we can. As others have said, it looks as though you have several issues going on. Is there a local reef club you can get someone to come over and help you out with? Sometimes it's a lot easier to understand stuff when you can watch someone put their hands on it.

Nonetheless, cut back on food to no more than one cube of frozen every other day.
Stop dosing stuff.
Keep up the water changes. (Using RODI water to mix your saltwater and for top off water would be a big help to you.)

The next order of business IMO would be getting the skimmer dialed in. I'd see if you can look up some videos on YouTube that show a similar skimmer at work. (You should be getting a dark and foul-smelling liquid accumulating in the cup as opposed to running out the top.)

I htink you can get that tank turned around without pulling out all your hair!
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:52 PM   #15
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Ok, so lets try to help you get on the right track.
First off, you are feeding too much. You have 2 clowns, a firefish, a pj cardinal, a yellow tailed blue damsel, and a royal gramma. All of them are herbivores. What do you feed? I'm personally a fan of frozen foods, specifically mysis shrimp and blood worms. I feed my tank half a cube twice a week after rinsing off the food once it has thawed. So basically, you are feeding too much.
In terms of cleaning your tank, it sounds quite similar to what I am doing. Yeah, it sucks cleaning the sponges I won't lie. But cleaning them weekly will aid you avoid issues later.
That thing with the cup ontop, that is called a protein skimmer. It is pulling garbage out of your water that would cause nitrification if it settled in the tank. It is overflowing, that means that it needs adjusted. There should be a knob somewhere to adjust the flow. Try opening it up more. My skimmer cup gets emptied out once maybe twice a week.
Water changes. Good for you! 10% weekly water changes are what you need to do! It is better to do them weekly, but bi weekly is good.
Why are you dosing calcium, alk...everything for that matter. You don't have any hard corals that would be using these elements in your tank so the elements that are supplied by the salt you are using would be enough. Also, if you dose anything into your tank you need to test for it.
The things on your rock, those are called aiptasia. They are glass anemone. They are bad news. You need to kill them off. Some use boiled water or lemon juice squirted right into the mouth. I prefer a product called Aiptasia-X. You can also just remove the rock and boil it in water. Do not try to manually remove them! When they break, they release spores that will land around the tank and become new aiptasia. Don't worry, they aren't that bad to deal with.
The algae. The red stuff is actually cyano bacteria. Remove it by just siphoning it out of the tank. The algae can just be pulled or scrubbed off. Do this before your water change. This stuff is caused by too much phosphates and nitrates in your water. This is coming from the fact that you are overfeeding, so cutting back and physical removal will start to address the issue.
Any other questions, feel free to ask. It isn't too much to be overwhelmed about. You are doing good!
I do have more critters than what is visible in the pic. I also have a horseshoe crab and hermits, a red shrimp with white stripes down its back, a shrimp with big claws that digs out caves an a grumpy yellow guy that guards the entrance. Also a starfish. Still all herbivores? Isn't my sis shrimp to carnivores? I don't know if the purple and the by blue thinks on the rock to they left are worms or what. But they eat. What should I feed them? Should th protein skimmer be at any certain level. I always thought it was supposed to flow out lol. I was putting all of th supplements in because th fish store guy came out to the house and said I needed to. This was like the first week I had them. I think there was coral then probably not now. Should I be adding salt? I don't, just change water. I don't test anything myself but I take samples in to the fish store for testing occassionally. Thanks for all the info.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:56 PM   #16
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One thing at a time, sniper.... He or she is already inundated & overwhelmed, and your throwing 15 things at them at once. Let's start this slow.... It's a FOWLR, the aipstasia needs to go, but it can wait a few minutes.
Yes, the fish are being fed way too much, hence the reason for all the algae and slimy stuff, but we'll get to that. We need to figure out what this person already knows about fishkeeping, and work from there.

Are you doing any kind of testing on the tank?
I really don't know much. I used to keep a freshwater tank. I pretty much don't know more than that. What is a FOWLR? The fish store tests it for me. Usually when I go in to get water.
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We're happy to help however we can. As others have said, it looks as though you have several issues going on. Is there a local reef club you can get someone to come over and help you out with? Sometimes it's a lot easier to understand stuff when you can watch someone put their hands on it.

Nonetheless, cut back on food to no more than one cube of frozen every other day.
Stop dosing stuff.
Keep up the water changes. (Using RODI water to mix your saltwater and for top off water would be a big help to you.)

The next order of business IMO would be getting the skimmer dialed in. I'd see if you can look up some videos on YouTube that show a similar skimmer at work. (You should be getting a dark and foul-smelling liquid accumulating in the cup as opposed to running out the top.)

I htink you can get that tank turned around without pulling out all your hair!
What is RODI water? I have been buying the water from the fish store. Is it easy to mix myself? If so, I could maybe go to weekly water changes at least until it starts shaping up. Thanks.
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Old 10-29-2012, 01:07 PM   #18
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You should learn to test yourself. I know its just one more thing to do but it's important for you to "know your tank". API master saltwater kit is what your going to want. It comes with instructions on how to test and if you have questions this is the place to ask. Good luck!
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I do agree with everyone's comments about the fish being overfed. But these fish are not all herbivores. In fact most are carnivores and some omnivores. If you feed then herbivore food many of the fish may die. the unseen yellow fish is likely a goby. Try the "Liveaquaria" site for ID and specific information about the fish.

The skimmer should have a line in it indicating the optimum water level. Unfortunately with your current sump setup you will have a hard time maintaining it because there is no baffle between your middle section and return section. So as water evaporates your water level in those 2 sections drops. If possible I would move the skimmer to the first section. If that is not possible I would strongly suggest an automatic top off (ATO) to maintain the proper water level.
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Did you say you're doing water changes and just adding freshwater back in?! I might have misunderstood lol

Make sure you're adding saltwater back in that's close to your tanks currently salinity and ph
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