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Old 01-11-2013, 09:41 PM   #11
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How much sand should I use for a 20 live sand isn't too much
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:44 PM   #12
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Probably 20-25 lbs for 1" sand bed. More if you are looking into a DSB.

Again, I wouldn't spend the money on live sand. In my opinion it isn't worth extra cost.
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Dsb? Ok well I will get regular sand and rock then. I thought I had to have it
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DSB = deep sand bed.

FYI, if you hover your mouse over common acronyms, it will popup with what they mean.

You do not need to have either. I especially wouldn't buy a whole tank worth of live rock. All you need is a couple pounds to seed the rest, and time.
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Well if I can get by without buying any live it would be good. I can order 30 lbs base with free shipping for 60 and should be plenty. I found 2 types of sand. natures ocean marine white sand and nature ocean aragonite sand. They are about 8-9 bucks a bag but the site doesn't say what size bags. What is the perks of doing a dsb. I'm on my phone right now so I can't hover
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ah ok on the phone

DSBs can help process nitrogenous waste, but I wouldn't recommend it for your first setup. You can read more on them if interested.

You will need a bit of live rock if you are looking for coralline algae (the pink, purple, and neon green stuff). But again, a small piece will seed the whole tank within a few months.
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:07 PM   #17
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Ok I will try to find a small piece then.

so far I've been on petco site

20 gal $20
Aqua-clear 30 gal 150 gph 42.49
aqueon pro 100 watt 32.99
coralife 750 gph power head 49.99
base rock on other site $60
Sand about 36 for 40 lbs

Not including lighting and lid
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That will get you going for a basic FOWLR (fish only with live rock) marine setup.

You may not need a power head. You might get away with something smaller too if you want a powerhead.

Do you know what fish you want? There are options for marine fish in a 20, but not as much as you might think - especially when compared to a FW setup of similar size. 20 gallons is a small SW tank.
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I want a pair of clowns and maybe something to keep tank clean

All that is about 260 not including light and lid.What would be a good cheap option for lighting
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Well, if it is fish only, you can use just about anything. A single t8 bulb would be fine. If you want coralline to grow well, and hope to keep some easy soft corals like mushrooms, a dual t5ho fixture with 1 white and 1 actinic bulb would probably be the best option. Good lighting is not cheap though.
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