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Old 11-29-2011, 11:00 AM   #11
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ok so I dont understand why I cant have a lid really...couldnt I just remove the strip that holds the glass peices together then the light wouldnt be blocked at all. I just loose alot of water beings its a small tank and I think that a lid is needed, plus I want a warrse and they jump so id need a lid.
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Old 11-30-2011, 03:46 PM   #12
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why is it not recommended??
Like I said earlier a clear space above the water surface promotes gas exchange especially when you have allot of surface agitation.
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ok so it promotes the gas exchange, but it still does it with a lid...maybe not as much but by adding a lid I find it hard to belive that there is no longer a gas exchange between the water and the air, as long as the lid isnt air tight I dont see how this would become an issue or even hinder the gas exchange that is taking place on a microscopic level. Im not arguing that it doesnt im just saying with the amount of information you are providing is inadequit to decide if the lid is a good or bad thing. my questions are what effects will having a lid have on the water chemistry based on this gas exchange, what are your reasons for knowing this is an issue? If it is why do majority of people have a lid? Finaly alot of the time LIDS are maditory anyways to prevent fish from jumping out of the tank beings alot of marine fish will based off the information I have read.
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ok so it promotes the gas exchange, but it still does it with a lid...maybe not as much but by adding a lid I find it hard to belive that there is no longer a gas exchange between the water and the air, as long as the lid isnt air tight I dont see how this would become an issue or even hinder the gas exchange that is taking place on a microscopic level. Im not arguing that it doesnt im just saying with the amount of information you are providing is inadequit to decide if the lid is a good or bad thing. my questions are what effects will having a lid have on the water chemistry based on this gas exchange, what are your reasons for knowing this is an issue? If it is why do majority of people have a lid? Finaly alot of the time LIDS are maditory anyways to prevent fish from jumping out of the tank beings alot of marine fish will based off the information I have read.
Glass lids with all the plastic edges that completely cover the top of the aquarium do interfer with gas exchange on saltwater tanks. The effect on water is a resulting drop in pH. While not a huge issue, it does occur. Additionally, on tanks that are predrilled, the lower water level allows the accumulation of saltcreep on the lid, inhibiting light from reaching the corals (this in my opinion is a much bigger issue than the gas exchange). Can't speak to this particular forum, but the majority of people on the other saltwater forums I frequent do not have glass lids. In fact, most don't use any type of lid. However, those who keep fish, like firefish which are known jumpers use a mesh cover to prevent the fish from jumping.
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Old 11-30-2011, 06:20 PM   #15
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that you very much for you explination on the gas exchange my issue with the lid is like you said the saltcreep that will prevent light from getting to my corals, I was going to use egg crate but this to make for alot of blocked light IMO. How doe sthe mesh lids work? do I make a wood frame then attach a mesh material to it via staples?
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You could, but most I've seen are done use screen frames with a plastic mesh. Let me do some looking and I'll see if I can't find you a link.
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You got a PM. Hope its helpful.
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