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Old 07-21-2010, 03:52 AM   #1
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Lighting advice for a 110G Tank and Sump

Hello All,

I'm in the process of converting my exisiting 110G FW tank to a SW setup.

As part of the equipment purchase, I'm getting confused on what to decide on.

I have a limited budget, so my choices are limited as well. However, I want to make sure that my choice of light would be practically suitable for my current and future plans with this tank.

I'm planning on starting with a FOWLR setup and eventually move to a Reef setup when I'm confident. So, the lighting that I buy now should be scalable to a reef setup in future as well.

My plan is to buy 2 x T8 55W housing and later add another 2 x T8 55W when I plan to move to Reef. Will this work? Or should I go for T5?
If 4 x 55W T8 tubes would be fine, then I would prefer this against T5 due to the cost factor.

Also, I plan to setup a 30G sump with a refugium section with some sand and Live Rock. Whill this require seperate lighting?


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Old 07-21-2010, 01:24 PM   #2
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T8's are pretty antiquated over on the dark side. (don't hate me mike)
It's good that you know where you want to go with this, but to make a truly educated decision, we need to narrow this down even more.
What kind of reef are you thinking?
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Soft Corals:
Zoanthids:
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Low light SPS (monti's, caps):
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T8 are fine for FO, but once you start talking about reef the sky's the limit. I'm on my fourth lighting system. I now have LED's equivalent to 400w MH lighting.

T5 would require more than 4 bulbs for that tank unless as Jim stated you only wanted mushrooms and other low light corals. You should be looking at a 6 0r 8 bulb T5 at a minimum. Even then you want to find a quality T5 unit with individual, higly polished, parabolic reflectors. The thin bulbs allows for this type of refelctor that can put 95% - 98% of the light into the tank.

Or you could do what I did. Take a hit on the light later when the tank has been running for a while and you had the time to save money for a good light system.
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Yea, I have the buy once, use for anything mentality on lighting and skimmers. Been through one too many crappy fixtures. But Cmor is right, it all depends on what time frames you are looking at, and what your pocket can handle. Answer my above questions and we can get you started.
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Cmor, Jimbo Thank you for the response.

I have never thought too deep into the type of Corals that I would want to house.

Infact, I was facinated by the Carpet Anemone and the Bubble Tip Anemone that I saw at the LFS. I wanted to start of with these once my FOWLR setup is stable.

Corals are next to impossible to get in India through a direct channel due to the restrictions on their sale.

As rightly said, I think its wise to start of with adequate lighting required for FOWLR tank and let the tank mature for a couple of months. In the meantime, I could save some funds for a proper buy as per the requirements.

As for your question Jimbo, I wouldn't want to limit myself at any point, I'd like to try new things during the course of the journey. But to start, these are some of the Corals I'd love to have in my tank.

Mushroom and Leather (Cladiella)
Mushroom (Actinodiscus)
Sea Mat and Button Polyps (Palythoa)
Finger Leather and Colt (Cladiella)

Your suggestions are much appreciated!

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If you really want to keep anemones then you will need a lot of light. For the bubble tip anemone you *might* be able to get away with 6 T-5s if you got it to sit on a high spot in the rocks. (keep in mind the anemone will choose where to stay not you. The move around until they are happy) Carpets need even more light then the bubble tips. I would not try to keep one unless you had 8 T-5s or metal halide lights in a tank that deep. Also keep in mind anemones in general can be a bit picky about your water stability so it is a good idea to have the tank up and running for 4-5 months before you put one in the tank. Especially if this is your first SW.

If you want to be able to upgrade your lights easily the best way to do that is build your self a canopy that you can put retro fit lights in. You can look at hellolights.com and they have 2 and 4 bulb T-5 retrofit kits. You can start with a 2 or 4 bulb fixture now and then buy another to add into your canopy later if you want to upgrade. Buying a fixture doesn't really give you a lot of flexibility to upgrade down the road with out selling it and just buying a whole new fixture.

The coral you listed that you wanted to start with are all good easy to care for choices and will only require low-med light.
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Pat, thank you for your suggestions!

I agree with you on the lighting requirement, I think the calculation works upto 6 x 80W T5. If I'm not wrong, my tank would require 450W of light @ 4.5W per gallon considering I would want to go for the corals that need high lighting.

I'll look into the option of DIY light canopy. I think its a good suggestion considering the benefits.

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Has anyone thought about LED lighting. I have been reading on some sites that LED lights can be used for a reef setup as well.

LED Saltwater Aquarium Lights - LED Saltwater Aquarium Lights

Any suggestions around this?

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Check this out....

YouTube - Aquarium Led Lamp - Best Light for your reef aquarium

Is this kind of lighting good enough!? If it has worked for 3 months on this tank as mentioned, I think thats enough time to prove it works right?

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I recently switched to the PacSun BT-EX fixtures (1 master, 2 slaves). The output is equivalent to 400w MH lighting. The control aspect is amazing. My lights slowly ramp up over 2 hours to 100% intensity and slowly ramp down to dusk. Then the moonlight setting kicks in, following the moon phase. Yes there are a few days of total tank darkenss using that mode.

As for anemones, please see my RULE # 9.

Seymour's rules for SW tanks.
Rule # 1. Nothing Good ever happens Fast in a salt water aquarium
Rule # 2. Don't add anything (supplements/chemicals/minerals)you don't test for first.
Rule # 3. PWC (Partial Water Changes) are your friend, and cure many ills.
Rule # 4. QT EVERYTHING before adding it to your tank (mandarins excepted, corals should be dipped)
Rule # 5. Use only RO or RODI water (either buy it or make it)
Rule # 6. All animal species live longer on a 30% reduced caloric intake. Only feed every other day at most (fish species dependant)
Rule # 7. Hyposalinity is the best, safest, and most effective treatment for marine Ich (IMHO)
Rule # 8. A Refractometer is a MUST HAVE, not a luxury.
Rule # 9. Anemones will never live anywhere near their normal (aprox 30 years) lifespan in a home aquarium. Leave them in the ocean.

I'll add to that carpet anemones are difficult, require a large tank that has been established for a reasonable (8 - 12 month minimum) time.
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