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Old 12-29-2002, 09:51 PM   #1
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I've been rooting thru my extras since funds are tight right now. Currently I have only 2 20,000K Coralife lights running. My LFS said it was all I needed. Doesn't seem bright enough. I found a 29" strip light with just a GE bulb. Could I just get 2 glass tops and use these 3lights for now, or maybe replace the GE bulb with something else. I wasn't sure about the color needed. I've read to have a actinic bulb and a full spectrum. Do you use both at the same time. This GE bulb seems to override the blueness that the Coralife bulbs put out. I've attached 2 pics. All that I did was open the front hoods and placed the strip on top. I makes everything way brighter but it seems very white. Not sure if it is too white. I do not no anything about lights. Also I do not have much clearance from the top of my tank to the above wall.
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Old 12-29-2002, 10:07 PM   #2
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IMO more light is better. Forget about Kelvin and use what looks good to you. Another opinion... Coralife bulbs are really bad.

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I hate to even add this...but unless they have changed their ways, the GE bulbs aren't too great either...pretty low CRI. You might want to look into some of the NO bulbs that have an internal reflector...this might help direct more light down into the tank. I believe some of the Hagen bulbs such as the Life-Glo (6700k) and the Power-Glo (18000k) have this option. More light is definitely better, but I would hesitate about spending much money on NO lighting. Better to save it up for a good VHO, MH, or PC system. JMHO .
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Old 12-29-2002, 11:12 PM   #4
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As I stated above I didn't buy these, I had them. If this setup would work I would buy new bulbs. What are good bulbs. I have read that you should have a full spectrum and a blue actinic. Currently all my bulbs would be classed as more of full spectrum. Although the coralife's have a mixture of both.
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Skip...the bottom line is you don't have enough light and you ain't gonna get it with normal output bulbs. So...what to do? Use what you have until you can afford better lights. That's what I'm doing and it's likely what a lot of us on here did. By better lights I mean VHO, MH, or PC. If it's gonna be a long time, maybe spring for a couple of bulbs like the Hagens with the internal reflectors. But don't waste your money on NO fixtures. Save it for the good stuff.
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Old 12-30-2002, 10:23 AM   #6
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Can I fit better light in the small space that I have. Where to you buy Hagen lights. The only stuff our LFS have are perfecto's, nothing with internal refelectors.

Is there a book about lighting?
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You could easily build a canopy to hold some PC or VHO florecents over your tank.

Its not near as hard as it sounds. All a canopy is would be just a box with the bottom missing, some braces to support the sides and top. Put the reflectors and bulbs inside and put the ballasts some place else.

Maybe fashon a door on the front to access the tank with out having to remove the canopy.

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Is there a book about lighting?
Not that I know of. Lighting is such a debatable topic that i would find it hard to see anyone writing a book and not having it so criticized. There are several lighting threads in this forum you should check out to get a basic working knowlege about aquarium lighting.

http://www.aquariumadvice.com/viewtopic.php?t=177

http://www.aquariumadvice.com/viewtopic.php?t=12

Those are two threads in particular.
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I have only 8" from the tank to the wall. Is this canopy still capable to be built. I only ask becuase I don't know the dimensions of the lighting components.

Also where can I buy lighting components. What should I use VHO or PC.
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If you mean 8" from the top of yoru tank to the bottom of the wall. It looks like your tank is in a little cubby.

Sure 8" will work just fine. The canopy can sit on top of the tank and then build it 7" tall so you have 1" of room between it and the wall.

Then if you use 1" or 1/2" wood stock that puts your bulbs 6" above the water surface.

What are the dimentsions of the tank. Lenght and Width.

That will determin how many lights you can put under the hood of the canopy.

www.hellolights.com

www.ahsupply.com

these are just two wonderful resources for lights on line. Check out the General Retailers forum for some other links to lighting providers.
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Check out www.hellolights.com and www.ahsupply.com for lighting. www.il-solutions.com is another. You could build a canopy in the space you have. You probably won't be able to open the top or front. It would have to be a design that would slide off from the front. Wouldn't be too hard to do. Don't know what your woodworking capabilities are, but this could be built with basic hand tools. Actually, ahsupply has some enclosures already made...not sure if they will fit in your space though. 8" is enough room for the fixtures. You'll see more when you look at the above sites. Each has advantages and disadvantages. VHO tubes are the same size as your NO tubes. They use waterproof endcaps that will protect the ends of the bulbs from corrosion. Most manufacturers recommend replacing the bulbs every 6 months or so. PC's are a little brighter. They are mounted with spring clips which is not as secure IMO as the VHO endcaps although I have never had problems with them falling out. The endcaps, again IMO, do not seal as well as the VHO. Even the moisture proof ones. I don't see why they couldn't be taped with electrical tape to seal them up though. PC bulbs are good for about a year according to the manufac. You may need a fan in the canopy to help control heat. With only 8" to work with, I'm thinking that MH might not be a good idea but I would have to defer to those who have used them...I haven't. Take your time, read, research, and you'll come up with something that will work for you. I have been using two 15w NO bulbs on my 10gal for several months and, although I don't have the best growth in there, nothing has died either. I just ordered some 36w PC's from ahsupply so hopefully I'll have enough light soon. The point is that you have time to check it out thoroughly and make an educated decision. You might also try doing a search on aquarium lighting on google and about.com for more info.
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