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Old 08-04-2009, 09:07 PM   #11
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yeah, im sure you havent been shocked badly before and beleive me, you DO NOT want to be shocked really bad.
I have, not fun but preferable to burning your house down.

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HN1, i wouldnt mind seeing those plans once you ever get a hold of them. Sound prety interesting. Btw, how big is the frag tank you and SM have? And so, basically, you guys are going to go with the pendant? but are just going to secure it instead of hang it? Seems like a better plan to me than hanging anything.
It's a 48x12x12. We picked up a 400W Hamilton Pendant for it. I trust the 2x4's a lot better than I do the dry wall....

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IMO, If you are going to use electrical tubing I wouldn't use EMT for 2 reasons, #1 Its thin wall tubing and will fail easily if to much weight is applied, like grabbing it by accident if you should slip, #2 It will rust pretty quick. I would us thick wall threaded aluminum, it's much stronger and will slowly bend where as the EMT would just fail in an instant and it wont rust.
By the way lighting in marine aquaria stinks. Remember that dreadful thread I started just trying to find out the difference and basis for watts per gallon formula, I thought my head was going to explode. If you want to go down memory lane I've included the link. Question about the watts per gallon formula

Agreed. That was just the closest "look" I could find on short order.

BTW- that link needs to be permanently banned from the site. My head exploded a few times in empathy!
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:14 PM   #12
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It's a 48x12x12. We picked up a 400W Hamilton Pendant for it. I trust the 2x4's a lot better than I do the dry wall....




Agreed. That was just the closest "look" I could find on short order.

BTW- that link needs to be permanently banned from the site. My head exploded a few times in empathy!
ROFL . Wasn't that a great thread?
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:17 PM   #13
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250/400W HQI Double Ended Pendant by IceCap - AquaCave
IceCap 400 Watt Electronic Metal Hallide Ballast

So you think these would be perfect? With a hanging system?

Or i could get the whole system:
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:23 PM   #14
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Those looks like good options. I'm cheap though and would be looking for them used.
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You would still have to remove the stock top that came with your unit. The MH need to be further above your tank then the stock canopy would allow. If the MH is to close to your tank it will fry your fish and corals from the heat it puts out. Because your tank is so deep your only out is MH. T-5's have a penatration of only max 18".
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250/400W HQI Double Ended Pendant by IceCap - AquaCave
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You could try this for a ballast BallastWise - HID E-B DXE400HID1
It's cheaper. Nice looking pendant but a bit pricey, I bought the 2 reflectors at aquacave it was much cheaper 250W Metal Halide HQI Parabolic Reflector with Lens - AquaCave
I believe it also accommodates the 400 watt lamp as well. And don't forget the lamps, I got these Phoenix 250W 14,000K Metal Halide Lamp, Double Ended - AquaCave
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You would still have to remove the stock top that came with your unit. The MH need to be further above your tank then the stock canopy would allow. If the MH is to close to your tank it will fry your fish and corals from the heat it puts out. Because your tank is so deep your only out is MH. T-5's have a penatration of only max 18".
Ok, i plan to go with the MH lamps. But how far above do you think i need them over the water?

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You could try this for a ballast BallastWise - HID E-B DXE400HID1
It's cheaper. Nice looking pendant but a bit pricey, I bought the 2 reflectors at aquacave it was much cheaper 250W Metal Halide HQI Parabolic Reflector with Lens - AquaCave
I believe it also accommodates the 400 watt lamp as well. And don't forget the lamps, I got these Phoenix 250W 14,000K Metal Halide Lamp, Double Ended - AquaCave
I agree with all of this. But the reflectors you show only go to 250W and i think that the 400W would be better. I dont see anything that indicates it can handle 400W. Got any other cheaper reflectors?
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[quote=Etunes;1011561] I didnt mean that, Its just that i dont see why i need to make a canopy when i have 1 that goes with the stand. So i will proably have to come up with a rigged system to hold the lights in the canopy.

you need a retofit kit for the canopy. almost every lighting company makes them. how about a 400 watt MH for $120.00

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Md, he does not have a canopy. He has a stock top and it is much to low for MH. MH need to be at least 18" about the water or he'll heat the water up way to much as it is with a MH unit he might still need a chiller.
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I believe it will take both the 250 and 400 watt bulbs. You can call them to find out.
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