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Old 05-06-2009, 04:53 PM   #1
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Question Live Rock only or add Live Sand too

Ok...my husband and I are going to start a saltwater tank but not anytime soon. We are slowly getting the equipment and want to get as knowledgeable as possible. (We just started a freshwater about 3 months.)

Do ya'll (I'm a Texan) suggest using only Live Rock to cycle the tank or include Live Sand, as well?

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Old 05-06-2009, 05:27 PM   #2
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IMO live sand is a waste of money. Use reg argonite dry sand. It will become live in time. I don't buy that live aerobic bacteria can survive in a seal plastic bag that is shipped around the country, stored and thrown on a lfs shelf for resale. Good quality live rock is the way to go or base rock for that matter.. Or a mixture. Or to completely blow your mind.. you don't really NEED either. You can run a successful tank on nothing but a HOB filter (to some degree), or just sand. The possibilities are many and varied.

The typical being Live Rock with a argonite sand bottom and a skimmer (HOB or coupled with a sump).
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IMO just put the LR and sand in the tank and cycle the tank and cure the LR and sand at the same time. You could do a combination of LR and BR to save money.
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WOW, lots of IMOs!!!!
IMO, live sand is a waste, you can save quite a bit of money by using about 75% base rock to LR. I also use 1 raw, unseasoned jumbo shrimp per 30 gallons of water for an ammonia source to kick off my cycle (I have found this to be one of the most cost effective ways).
Make sure you get the liquid test kits. API makes a decent saltmaster's kit. Invest in a refractometer and RO/DI.
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I agree, if you use dry sand with LR it will eventually become live also.
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WOW, lots of IMOs!!!!
IMO, live sand is a waste, you can save quite a bit of money by using about 75% base rock to LR. I also use 1 raw, unseasoned jumbo shrimp per 30 gallons of water for an ammonia source to kick off my cycle (I have found this to be one of the most cost effective ways).
Make sure you get the liquid test kits. API makes a decent saltmaster's kit. Invest in a refractometer and RO/DI.
Or the LFS messed up and only rings up 1 out of the 4 bags of live sand you buy haha :P

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LOL! Unfortunately, I'm too honest and would end up saying something when I found out.
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Thanks for your IMOs. Now it's just convincing my husband that live sand is not necessary. He's so convinced something will be missed if we don't use the live sand. Arrrrgh!
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Ok, explain it to him this way.
The company goes to the beach to harvest the sand. They ship it in a hot/cold truck to the packaging plant (hot/cold) in there too. Then it sits on a shelf in the ware house (hot/cold) there too, then it gets put on another truck (you get the point here) and shipped to a distribution point or even the LFS, then it sits on the shelf (remember this part?) until some one decides to purchase it.....
Oh, I think I forgot to add something about Oxygen and circulation....just add that to the ().....LOL.
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Or show him the expiration date on the bag. If YOU can find it
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