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Old 08-14-2009, 11:17 AM   #1
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Next thing I want to do to my tank is add about 50 lbs or so of live rock. I live in Chillicothe, OH, and I work in Cincinnati, OH, but my LFS is near Columbus, OH. I'm still uncertain if I want to just buy cured LR at $6.50/lb, try to buy uncured LR, or try to make my own out of Argocrete or something. I only have experience buying 50 lbs of cured LR to cycle my tank with.

If I buy uncured LR, I'm thinking about trying to cure it in my garage. I measured the temperature in my garage and it was 80 this morning (outside temp was in the 60s), I don't see it getting any hotter than 85 in there in mid-day, and over the next couple of months the outside temp will drop maybe a max of 15 degrees average. I guess my garage is pretty well insulated. Do you think that with a heater, I could keep the temperature stable enough to cure LR?

Has anybody had good experiences/good prices ordering uncured LR online? What about making it out of concrete? I've read the articles about it but I'm having trouble getting a good idea of what everything costs...
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Old 08-14-2009, 11:22 AM   #2
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Cure it in the tub in your garage with a heater and powerhead. Marc estimates that his new 'pre cycled' base rocks takes about a week to burn off what remaining organics are on it. If you have any questions, give him a call or email. Great guy and company to deal with.

I noticed your 'my tanks' says you have 30lbs of sand in that 150... That can't be much of a layer.. Your goby may appreciate some more if you get a chance
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Ahh, 30 lbs of it is live, there is more sand, but it wasn't live when I started the tank. I'll clarify that.

I'll take a look at the link. Thanks for the advice!
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even 100lbs of live sand isnt enough for a 150... 1 lb per gallon minimum...
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Not quite sure where that factoid came from but you are aware that there are many in the hobby that run bare bottom tanks right? As long as there is sufficient area for bacteria to colonize (LR, decorations, sump, HOB, canister filters etc) sand is totally optional unless you have livestock that prefer/require it.

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even 100lbs of live sand isnt enough for a 150... 1 lb per gallon minimum...
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100 lbs isn't all I plan to keep in that tank... I just don't want to add a whole bunch of LR at once. When everything is done I think I want to end up with 200-250 lbs in the 150G tank. I have a wet-dry filter right now but if all goes well, someday in the (probably distant) future I might take it away and just let the LR act as a biological filter.
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replace the balls with rubble and you're there
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+1 on the Marcorocks recommendation.

I added 50lbs of his BaseRock to my 50lbs of LR. After a month in my tank, the Base is already looking like my LR. I imagine in another month or so, I wont be able to tell the difference at all.
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I ordered 50 lbs of live rock last night from macrorocks. The price seemed pretty good, so we'll see how the rock ends up. It's supposed to be here later this week.

I set a black trash can in my garage with about 15 gallons of water in it. A submersible heater and powerhead are in there right now mixing it. I'll keep this thread updated with how it goes. Thanks for the advice.
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