Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Saltwater and Reef > Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 01-07-2005, 12:20 AM   #11
AA Team Emeritus
 
cmor1701d's Avatar


 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Belle Mead, NJ
Posts: 7,814
Seems that you can't get Southdown or other tropical playsand in CA. You might want to ask the garden dept of your local HD if they can get some for you. They usually need to bring in a pallet (288 bags), but you don't know till you ask. It goes for $5-$6 per 50 pound bag.
__________________

cmor1701d is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2005, 02:09 PM   #12
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 121
I am definitely not a pro on this but I would like to clarify a few things I have read on multiple how-tos and other forums and give my 2c on what my understanding is:

There is:

1) Retail bagged dry CaribSea Fiji Pink, Aragonite, etc. (cheaper)
2) Retail dry bagged sand that is suitable for Tank use after washing (discontinued Tropical PlaySand and others - at HomeDepot for some time)
2) Retail bagged wet Aragonite and other "water included" bags that are basically dead sand with water in the bag to make you think you're buying LS (more expensive than all the others but not really worth it for what's on it)
3) Real live sand from you're LFS or friends tank that is already established and full of life.

The most cost effective way is to purchase:

1) All dry sand and letting your Live Rock seed the sand over time/during cycling
2) All dry sand and ask your LFS to give you (customer service is the key here) a few cups to a pound of sand out of their already established tank (or a friend with a tank) and spread it over your dead dry sand in the tank which will speed up the seed process.

Please feel free to add comments or correct me here... like I said, just my 2c
__________________

__________________
liquidreamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2005, 04:18 PM   #13
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kissimmee FL
Posts: 867
My neighbor and I get our cleaning crew from garf because they give you 2lb's of their stuff for free when you order. Plus their cleaning crew costs $1 for each animal (course you pay for it in their 20 shipping fee lol) But to me, it's worth it. You get all kind of colorful sponges growing on your rocks, pods, worms, mini stars coralline strains ect ect.
__________________
Alex n Mary

150 gallon, 30g fuge/sump, 4.5 watt/gal VHO Lighting, 4" sand bed, 290 lbs LR, CDX-3 Nitrate/Phosphate filter

Female Naso "Isabell" or "Izzy", Emperor Angelfish, Flame Angel, Red Sea Sailfin tang "Bambi", Maroon Clown "Nani", 5 Chromis, 1 Aglae Blenny "Bengi" , Yellow Watchman Goby, pr of Banggai Cardinals, Lyretail Anthia, Six Line Wrasse

1 cleaner shrimp, Coral Banded Shrimp, lettuce nudibranch, 1 sand sifter stars, 1 tiny red brittle star "red", 1 tiny red and white banded serpent star, 2 tiny banded serpent stars, small orange Linkia starfish, assorted hermits and snails. Corals: star polyps, A ton of different types of mushrooms, yellow zooanthids, brown-orangish and light blue paly's, orange ricordia.

90g RR, W/D, 120 lb's LR SF eel, pygmy angel, pr sebae clownfish, 4 chromis. Star Polyps & Mushrooms
clowninround is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2005, 04:52 PM   #14
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: California
Posts: 29
Now I'm totally confused. I was sold 40 pounds of live sand in bags and a huge jug of live water to start a 75 gallon tank is this bad? What would you suggest return all that buy just regular sand (not live and wait with live rock and seed with sand or coral from a tank from the fish store? The fish store said they didn't like to give out sand from their anks because of medications they add to their tanks.
__________________
barbara Travers
barbtrave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2005, 05:57 PM   #15
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kissimmee FL
Posts: 867
Yeah, if the LFS medicates DO NOT buy their LS. I got mine free from garf and bought a couple extra pounds (I think 8lb's in all). It has like a gravel consistancy to it (purple). I let it sit on top and my sand sifters mixed it all in, you can't really see it now, look in my gallery...but it came with all kinds of life...thats what you wanna look for...sand that has diversity in it and you will have an awesome bed. My husband bought 60#'s of "live sand" from the store for his 55...there was nothing live about it. Bueatiful sand with no critters....I used to tease him about mine compared to his lol. If you already bought it, you can still seed it...you won't be sorry...the more critters, the better it funtions as a nitrate reducer. Ebay is another good source, they sell kits that has worms and mini stars, pods, ect ect.
__________________
Alex n Mary

150 gallon, 30g fuge/sump, 4.5 watt/gal VHO Lighting, 4" sand bed, 290 lbs LR, CDX-3 Nitrate/Phosphate filter

Female Naso "Isabell" or "Izzy", Emperor Angelfish, Flame Angel, Red Sea Sailfin tang "Bambi", Maroon Clown "Nani", 5 Chromis, 1 Aglae Blenny "Bengi" , Yellow Watchman Goby, pr of Banggai Cardinals, Lyretail Anthia, Six Line Wrasse

1 cleaner shrimp, Coral Banded Shrimp, lettuce nudibranch, 1 sand sifter stars, 1 tiny red brittle star "red", 1 tiny red and white banded serpent star, 2 tiny banded serpent stars, small orange Linkia starfish, assorted hermits and snails. Corals: star polyps, A ton of different types of mushrooms, yellow zooanthids, brown-orangish and light blue paly's, orange ricordia.

90g RR, W/D, 120 lb's LR SF eel, pygmy angel, pr sebae clownfish, 4 chromis. Star Polyps & Mushrooms
clowninround is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2005, 07:08 PM   #16
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 121
clowninaround - thanks for the info - can you point me to one of those sand/critter auctions you are referring to? Also, good info about the medications as well.

Barbtrave - Not to say your LFS lies or anything... but I would imagine that some lfs's would say their tanks are medicated just so they can say that they dont recommend it. Especially when it means that you may then have to buy the more expensive stuff. But just to be on the safe side - don't get it. If the price difference isn't that bad - save yourself a trip and keep the already clean "wet" stuff ya got!
__________________
liquidreamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2005, 08:37 PM   #17
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kissimmee FL
Posts: 867
http://www.garf.org/main.html This is the site where I got mine, but it's not an auction. Their clean up crews are awesome too if you need em. I searched on ebay but i know I am spelling it wrong, someone help me here....what you are looking for is a detritvore kit is that how it is spelled? I have never ordered them online but I here they are good also. I just never needed to cuz the grunge I get has all that cool stuff plus other stuff, so I stick with it, has so much diversity in it and that is what I look for.
__________________
Alex n Mary

150 gallon, 30g fuge/sump, 4.5 watt/gal VHO Lighting, 4" sand bed, 290 lbs LR, CDX-3 Nitrate/Phosphate filter

Female Naso "Isabell" or "Izzy", Emperor Angelfish, Flame Angel, Red Sea Sailfin tang "Bambi", Maroon Clown "Nani", 5 Chromis, 1 Aglae Blenny "Bengi" , Yellow Watchman Goby, pr of Banggai Cardinals, Lyretail Anthia, Six Line Wrasse

1 cleaner shrimp, Coral Banded Shrimp, lettuce nudibranch, 1 sand sifter stars, 1 tiny red brittle star "red", 1 tiny red and white banded serpent star, 2 tiny banded serpent stars, small orange Linkia starfish, assorted hermits and snails. Corals: star polyps, A ton of different types of mushrooms, yellow zooanthids, brown-orangish and light blue paly's, orange ricordia.

90g RR, W/D, 120 lb's LR SF eel, pygmy angel, pr sebae clownfish, 4 chromis. Star Polyps & Mushrooms
clowninround is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2005, 02:40 PM   #18
AA Team Emeritus
 
cmor1701d's Avatar


 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Belle Mead, NJ
Posts: 7,814
Quote:
2) Retail dry bagged sand that is suitable for Tank use after washing (discontinued Tropical PlaySand and others - at HomeDepot for some time)
Drop the washing part. No rinse required just use it right out of the bag. It's same as the bagged CaribSea stuff, just sold for playground use...
__________________

cmor1701d is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
live, live sand, sand

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Live Sand Issues mmaglione Saltwater Reef Aquaria 20 01-27-2010 07:52 PM
Buying live sand vs making live sand mhart032 Saltwater Reef Aquaria 12 06-03-2009 06:13 PM
Still havign issues with sand polyups. jasno999 Saltwater & Reef - Sick Fish or Coral 2 03-30-2006 05:48 PM
my live rock its got some issues monkeyman164 Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 2 05-13-2004 12:12 PM
Sand Issues Hypostomus Freshwater & Brackish - Getting Started 7 04-20-2004 10:51 AM







» Photo Contest Winners








Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:20 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.