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Old 01-04-2005, 10:16 PM   #1
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Live Sand issues

I decided to use Aragonite LS, but am not sure if I need to buy the bags that have the "injected bio" material in them already (the bags that have the sealed water inside with the sand). They have the same material w/o the water for half the price. (although I did find a place locally that will sell me two 20LB bags of the wet version for $23!!, versus $36 in other LFS).

Question: One LFS told me that if I'm in no hurry to cycle my tank, that the dry version would be just as fine. Is this true? If I go with the dry stuff, will I just be going to get a pretty yet expensive dead substrate with no future? (who would get the wet, and who would get the dry?)
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Old 01-04-2005, 11:13 PM   #2
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Everything I've read here says that the wet in a bag is all but useless. Your dry sand will seed with bacteria, etc during your cycling process and once your live rock is in the tank. There's no need to pay extra for "live" sand that probably isn't really live anymore. You'd do well to find someone local willing to give/sell you some from their tank.

That being said, I didn't know any better when I setup my tank. I bought 1 bag of LS from the LFS and 3 bags of dry. You can't tell one from the other now.
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find a local to trade you a pound or 2 of his sand for your dead sand.
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Old 01-05-2005, 02:02 AM   #4
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Well, not sure if I can make a trade with any LFS, but advice on the LS is what I had expected. About the expenses, how much would you guys expect to pay per pound of dry Aragonite sand? (LFS has it for $1.10/lb dry, while they have "you-bag-it-yourself" wet for $2.00/lb!!).

The dry bags they have here are $43.99 for a 40 pound bag and I believe are "made" by Carib Sea Pink Fiji or Fuji something-or-other aragonite (if I remember right). Again, I can get 40 pounds of the wet version for only $5 bucks more... waste of good Starbucks latte money, yay or nay?
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Waste of good Starbucks money I should think.
Aside from the bacteria, how much water do you think you would be buying.
That said, a lb or two of the wet stuff probably wouldn't hurt. Jeff
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Other than the bacteria in the sand that develops over time, what actually makes LS "live sand"? Read somewhere that it is the small starfish, worms, mites, crabs, etc that make it "live". Thoughts?
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You could just buy reg. dead sand or your choice of gravel and seed it with live rock thats how I went about it.
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You won't get anything but bacteria (if much of that) from bagged sand. Great live rock (like that from LR.com) has tons of great things in it that will bring your sand to life.
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If it is only $5 more then I would buy the live sand. Cuts the cycle time way down and you don't have to rinse it.
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If you have a LFS that you buy a lot of stuff from and they are not will ing to give you a few cups of LS from one of their tanks...find another LFS that will. A little customer service goes a long way with me. The "LS" in the bag is really nice looking wet dead sand. (by the way, $23 for 20lbs us a good price on that stuff) I just used 10 lbs of it in my new nano and added another 10lbs of truely LS to it. Like I said, it looks nice, but if you need a lot of it it's not a good choice. the dry sand in the bag is a better deal, put still pretty exspensive.
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