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Old 11-05-2003, 05:58 PM   #1
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live stock list , would like your opinion

I have 58 gal tank and have traded all my fishies for some coral frags they went to a very, very good home!! My intention was to start a seahorse specific tank but I have read and read and read some more and come to the desicion that it is just to hard to do. So, I now I am faced with a near empty tank. I have three corals a green star polyp, Some silver tipped Zenia, and some green mushrooms. 13 snails of various parentage are in there as well. There is nothing else in the tank at all.
I am putting together a, hopefully, more thought out plan for new additions. I thought I would see what you guys thought of it. I went off the descriptions given by Marine Depot Live now I'd like to see what you guys think before I go and order anything.
I have Sealife Inc power compact Smart lite for lighting, 85 lbs of live rock and a shallow sand bed. A Sealife Pro 200 Wet Dry (in the process of pulling out the bio balls slowly, very slowly at the moment) and Protien Skimmer.
Ok heres what i am thinking
1 Copper Banded Butterfly
1 Springer's Bluestripped Dotty Back
and maybe 1 tomato clown added last but I am thinking that may be to much
2 red skunk cleaner shrimp
1 Marble Starfish
1 Electric Scallop
1 Flame Scallop
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Old 11-05-2003, 06:03 PM   #2
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Be careful with the CopperBand, they can be a very *iffy* fish. The Indo-Pacific ones are often cyanide-caught, difficult to get to feed, and often die within a couple months. The Australian ones are a much better choice, usually net caught, but the price usually reflects it (upwards of $50.00 for a small one).

I'd add the Dottyback last - nasty fish.

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1 Electric Scallop
1 Flame Scallop
These are both extremely difficult to keep long-term in captivity. Here's a good read:

>>Flame Scallops, Rob Toonen, Advanced Aquarist online magazine<<

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Old 11-05-2003, 06:09 PM   #3
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Copperbanded have an uneven survival record so read up on them before you purchase one.

However, I like the Flame Angelfish, this will add great coloration.
Another one of my favorite small fish to try is a Redlip blenny, they have alot of character. You could also try a Scott's fairy wrasse.

hope this helps
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Old 11-05-2003, 06:17 PM   #4
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Thats great reeflady thats the info I need they just dont tell ya that stuff in the descriptions.
Ok what other butterfly do you suggest then scince I have no idea where to procure a Australian caught copper banded . Or none at all?
Oh, and I knew the dotty back had a attitude did'nt know it was that bad though, trying to put him with fish that can hold there own though, ok he goes in last! Wow something with more attitude then a tomato clown! maybe I'll go maroon clown then!
and Ill ditch the scallop idea really stems from the fact that I want clams and dont have the lighting to keep em' thought I'd be a comprimise
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Old 11-05-2003, 06:20 PM   #5
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I love flame angels but wrote them off I thought they were sure to eat corals!
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Old 11-06-2003, 01:51 PM   #6
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i think that the butterfly will eat corals as much as the flame angel, if not more. also, i have no personal experience with scallops, but my gf's dad kept an elecric scallop for years with no problems. he said it was really iteresting turning all the lights off and watching the thing spark.
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Old 11-06-2003, 04:52 PM   #7
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Ok what other butterfly do you suggest then scince I have no idea where to procure a Australian caught copper banded . Or none at all?
The Copperbanded Butterfly is the only "reef-safe" Butterfly that I am aware of. Let me quantify "reef-safe' ---- we have one. I love it. It does display some strange behavior - it seems to have a *thing* about snails on the glass. Just can't be - pecks them all off. It doesn't eat them, just pulls them off the glass. Fortunately, our tank is large enough that the terror is widely spread, so the snails don't seem adversely affected.

It will eat Aiptasia (YAY!). It will also eat all feather dusters in your tank - little, big, whatever. I personally detested those little tubeworm dusters all over the place, so that was an added bonus for me. It does not bother any of our corals.

You can get an Australian Copperband from www.themarinecenter.com. Beware though, between price & shipping, you're looking at close to $100.00. We were lucky enough to have a decent LFS where we bought ours from, special order.

The Flame Angel (and any dwarf angel), yes, will nip at corals. Their favorites seem to be Open Brains, other LPS, Colt, Xenia, and 'polyps', pretty much in that descending order.

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Old 11-06-2003, 05:56 PM   #8
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ok amended list thanks to the heads up
1 Midnight Angel ( I like the look of these best out of the small angels)
1 springers blue striped Dotty Back
1 maroon clown
2 cleaner shrimp
1 marble star fish
and maybe i will try the electric scallop after more reading on their care
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FYI

A Tomato or a Cinnamon clown have some attitude themselves. I think if you like these fish, they would be fine with the dottyback. But if ya like the maroon, go with it!

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Old 11-06-2003, 06:25 PM   #10
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Reef Lady you always have good advise! I will check those butterflys out! Maybe i can order several things from them and cut the cost i will see what their shipping is like. Thanks for all the info now i feel like i can make a informed decision.
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