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Old 06-01-2012, 03:48 PM   #11
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It can be dangerous if the sand is large enough of a grain size. Its probably not a good idea to make the sand cloud often.
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:50 PM   #12
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Does anyone know the answer to this?
Make sure you are turning off all flow while you do this and that will minimize it. It will not hurt you fish however it best to try and minimize the disturbance as much as possible. If this means siphoning half the sandbed one water change and half the next water change then that might work better as far as not clouding up the tank so bad.

On a side note, think about replacing your sand sometime with a slightly larger grain size. I learned this the hard way when i started.
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:29 PM   #13
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You shouldn't even have to stick the gravel vac in the sand bed . You can do more harm then good
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:31 PM   #14
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You shouldn't even have to stick the gravel vac in the sand bed . You can do more harm then good
Not true at all. The only case that might be true is with an old neglected deep sand bed where large amounts of gas have built up
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Different strokes for different folks. I'll never do it in my tank .
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:59 PM   #16
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Different strokes for different folks. I'll never do it in my tank .
Curious as to why. Siphoning is pretty important especially long term.
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I'm using a dsb and everything I read and heard states you will release harmful gases and kill your fish. Also there is enough flow in my tank that nothing rests on the sand and no food or poo settles under the sand. So what's the point of doing it is my thinking. I actually never heard of anyone doing this with a sand bed , crushed coral beds yes they need to be vacuumed and maintained.
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I'm using a dsb and everything I read and heard states you will release harmful gases and kill your fish. Also there is enough flow in my tank that nothing rests on the sand and no food or poo settles under the sand. So what's the point of doing it is my thinking. I actually never heard of anyone doing this with a sand bed , crushed coral beds yes they need to be vacuumed and maintained.
All sand beds need maintained. Trust me things settle that you cant even see. Many DSB's dont work for this reason. And yes if you neglect a DSB for too long It will become a nutrient sink like any other sand bed and gases can form that will buildup. This is often the cause of many tank crashes. There are a lot of misunderstandings about deep sand beds. Eventually it will get to a point where it wont matter if you disturb the sand bed and/or nutrients will become too much for your animals to stand.

DSB's require maintenance like everything else in this hobby. Doesnt matter how much flow you have, flow will help a lot but its not a substitute. Usually neglected DSB's end in a tank tear down and restart, ive seen it way too many times and it sucks.
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Do you have any links to articles on this ? Like I said all the ones I have read say the opposite.
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Yeah this is a thread in another forum with lots of info on this.

http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/f7...nt-107650.html

Some very good info.
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