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Old 01-26-2012, 05:55 PM   #131
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you can crush up pellets into a fine powder
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:29 PM   #132
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They will eat almost anything. They survive on detritus usually. I would try to enrich them if possible.
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:33 PM   #133
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Mandarins, are they really a difficult fish?

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They will eat almost anything. They survive on detritus usually. I would try to enrich them if possible.
How would you enrich them? I have Selcon, Vit C made by Kent and Zoecon.
I also have a small 2"x3" patch of chaeto in there with them as well.
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You might do a search on what is the most beneficial thing to feed them. You would enrich them by whatever they had in their gut when eaten.

http://www.brineshrimpdirect.com/c90...pods-c199.html
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Thanks you for the link I have just booked marked it so I can read it some later on.
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:39 PM   #136
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Cultivatinging pods

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How do you culitvate your pods? And what are you feeding them? I ran out of Photo-Feast and all I have is frozen rotifers & frozen cyclop-eeze will that work on feeding them? Plus I have the other cyclop-eeze made by Instant Ocean in little packets don't know how that one would work????
To be honest, I have never needed to cultivate copepods seperately to feed other fish because I always had alternatives. I kept my mandarins in the invert sections at the shop (which always seemed to have pods swimming around) or in tanks with live rock at home. (One good thing about the undergravel filter was that it was a great place to cultivate these organisms allbeit not making the tank the cleanest place in the world.) I would feed vitamin saturated Live Brine Shrimp and other natural foods if I saw the fish getting skinny. Today, there a number of foods available that I haven't heard of or are replicating a food we used to make in our pet shop to feed our fish. (This food contained algae, fish, shrimp, crab, lobster eggs, squid, fish eggs, scallops, krill, zooplankton, plus other natural foods when available. This was a one stop food that fed most any fish.)
I'm sure if you googled "cultivating copepods", you will find articles on how to do this. This was one result I got when I looked. It seemed fairly simple to do. How to Cultivate Copepods & Amphipods | eHow.com

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The trick is getting them to reliably feed on anything but live foods. The next trick is buying a healthy one.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:47 PM   #138
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Sorry Greg....

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The trick is getting them to reliably feed on anything but live foods. The next trick is buying a healthy one.

There is no trick involved with picking a healthy fish.
You want to watch the fish in the tank he's in. Is he swimming normally? Picking at food? Breathing relaxed? acting normally? etc.
Ask your dealer to put some food in the tank. (If they won't, maybe you need to find another dealer.) Does the fish eat? Does the fish try to eat? (Sometimes a fish will not like what it's being fed but tastes the food being offered. This is a good sign!)
Next, there should be muscle/meat behind the head and a full stomach. If the stomach is pinched, not a good sign.
If the fish is doing fine in the store but not in your tank, the problem most likely is not the fish. It's your tank. A healthy, eating fish will not just shut down for no reason. How you're keeping them is usually the problem.
Now, I know this may piss off the internet sellers but if you want a better guarantee of getting a healthy fish, GO PICK IT OUT YOURSELF and follow the guidelines I just laid out!!!! Yes, you WILL PAY MORE for this but how many dead fish you will buy sight unseen vs healthy fish you buy following my guide will offset the difference.
I've been very successful at raising tiny fish into full grown adults because I followed this same system. Sometimes you have to wait for the right fish. Be patient!!! If you reduce your risk, you raise your success. Buy a healthy fish from the start.
See, there's no trick to it.
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We have both Ora Mandarins and the Non-Ora Mandarins here in Houston. One store that has the Ora's they run at $50 and the Non-ora's are running around $20 which actually isnt to bad and I saw a very nice fat non-ora ine eatting live brine shrimp but I did not get him till I am for sure that my tank has plenty of pods on there.
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We have both Ora Mandarins and the Non-Ora Mandarins here in Houston. One store that has the Ora's they run at $50 and the Non-ora's are running around $20 which actually isnt to bad and I saw a very nice fat non-ora ine eatting live brine shrimp but I did not get him till I am for sure that my tank has plenty of pods on there.
...You can contuinue feeding the live brine until it does. You could also try adding some fish eggs or lobster eggs and see if he'll go for that as well. (Small food with high nutrition. Hmmmm)

Just a thought..
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