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Old 08-09-2003, 12:05 PM   #1
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Maybe I'm just crazy...........

I am a newbie to the hobby, and maybe my impatience is getting the best of me. But I have been on a fishless cycle for 3 weeks now, and I was thinking by now that a I should start to see my amonia drop. However it is at an all time high, like above what the test kit can even measure. My Nitrates are beginning to spike also. I did do a partial water change about three days ago, and that didn't even help. Any advice? Or am I just not waitning long enough to see results?
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what else is in the tank? how much LR? how much LS? how much other substrate? I wouldn't do any water changes, especially while the ammonia is high. Tell us more detail about how you are cycling, please.

Fishless cycle as in raw shrimp?
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Well I have about 25 lbs of base rock, 25 lbs of lr that had been at the LFS for about 6 weeks before I bought it. I alos have about 40 lbs of ls. I am running a skilter 400 for filtration (I know it is not a good skimmer!) as well as anoother HOB for up to a 45 gallon tank. That help?
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let it be. it could take as much as 6 to 8 weeks, also water changes slow the proscess. don't do any till the cycle is over. removing amonia only slows the growth of your benificial bacteria.
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What size tank?
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55 gallon

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I have been on a fishless cycle for 3 weeks now, and I was thinking by now that a I should start to see my amonia drop. However it is at an all time high
What is the actual reading from the test kit? When did the ammonia start to rise versus the reading you have now? What is the brand of test kit?

Could easily be that the pre-cured LR and LS have not yet had time to grow the proper nitrosomonas to convert the ammonia as yet. It is rather odd that the levels are still high with no rotting matter to continually feed the NH3 levels.

Are you sure the rock was pre-cured and have you verified the readings against plain RO water?

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have you been using any additives- is your salt nitrate free? do you have any algal blooms? if you have algae covering everything it sort of chokes all the bacteria off from the wastes.
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Don't run the skimmer the skimmer takes out nitrates via debris, right now you want nitrites and trates to finish off your cycle. JC
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So tell me if I am right. If my nitrates and nitrites are on the rise, then am I closing in on the end of my cycle. I tested today, and my ammonia is still high. But my nitrates and nitrites are very high also. Is that good? By the way, I test with an aquarium pharmacuticals test kit (the liquid) and I don't have algae except a little film on the glass. I held of on the water change because u said and the water is crystal clear. Also, thanks for all the advice and sorry for the length of the post.
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