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Old 03-14-2012, 07:39 PM   #1
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Well this will be my first reef tank. It's a standard 45 gallon with wooden stand. What I have so far on this tank is an emporer 400 and a maxi jet 500 for now. I'm still up in the air as far as a sump goes . A 20 long may not fit in the stand so I might be stuck with a 10 gallon sump. That brings me to my first question is a 10 gallon sump even worth it? Will I even be able to run a skimmer? Maybe a turf scrubber will be more beneficial ? Anyways things I still need to buy are another powerhead , overflow, dual t5 ho fixture and build a sump or turf scrubber and get a return pump. I'm thinking CPR 700 gph overflow and mag 7 pump. This will be a slow build since I have the tank setup in hypo to qt my last addition for my 180 fowlr setup.if anyone can steer me in the right direction as far as my sump issue goes that would be great. Thanks
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:20 PM   #2
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I would measure your area to be absolutely certain before you make a decision on sump size. I would maximize the space for the largest sump that will feasibly fit under there. If you can fit a 20, go for it. If you have the 10gal as a sump and you find out later that a 20gal fits, you'll eventually end up going bigger (you always do).
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:26 PM   #3
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Yea I know it will fit in there but I don't know if I will be able to maneuver it in there unless I drain the tank and take it off the stand and put It through the top. I'm going to pick up a 20 this weekend and see how it goes.
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Definitely go with a scrubber ,,you'll love it..My very first scrubber only had a 10 gallon sump under it ,,,NP's at all..
If you wanted to though,you could take off the side panel of your stand and make it hinged for a door,then slide in a 20 and have access ..I put in side access to my current stand and its great ..I think all stands should have it
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That's a cool idea . I'm leaning towards a scrubber just because I have not done it before. Would I still be able to use a hob overflow and return pump just like I would a sump? Also where do you get the right algae for it?
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That's a cool idea . I'm leaning towards a scrubber just because I have not done it before. Would I still be able to use a hob overflow and return pump just like I would a sump? Also where do you get the right algae for it?
You grow it...Nice green hair algae is the best ...Sometimes you'll get brownish or reddish but it still filters just fine..Just means you have higher excess nutrients in the system ..The first couple growths will be brown but thats the normal process .
You won't need the HOB anymore,and yes ,the return pump is still used as normal..The water for the scrubber is from the overflow,its not always set up this way ,but i think its the easiest way to do it..
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Cool deal I will be doing a lot of research on the scrubber . So you basically start of with the bare grid and wait until the algae just starts growing? That's really cool.
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Cool deal I will be doing a lot of research on the scrubber . So you basically start of with the bare grid and wait until the algae just starts growing? That's really cool.
Yep,, in a couple days and you'll have patches here and there..In the time your growing your screen i would still use the HOB.
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Ok I think I'm more excited about the turf scrubber than the actual mushrooms and fish lol
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Ok I think I'm more excited about the turf scrubber than the actual mushrooms and fish lol
,nice...You'll be amazed at how efficient they are and how easy they are to build and maintain..
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