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Old 06-23-2004, 11:07 PM   #1
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my reef tank plan...please advise

Hello everyone.

I'm starting a new reef tank which will be my first SW tank. I've been researching for a couple of months, but my initial plan has run into some bumps..

so far, i've aquired a 36" 2x250Metal Halide Canopy that goes with my 65g 36x18x24 tank. I also have a cheezy stand. I plan to start with some relatively easy corals, then progress to sps/lps/clams/anemone. I want to do this right, from the start.

I originally planned to build a sump/refuge, to go with a prism skimmer(which i now know is not good enough). But no matter how much i research, i cannot understand the concept of overflows, drilling, and the like. I like the idea of the sump because i want my skimmer and heater hidden. i also like the fact the the main tank water level does not move. The problem is that my stand will need a custom tank size to fit in a pillar.

i just need someone to tell me what i should do and what i should get. I'm frustrated about all the plan changes on my end. If I do go with a sump, i'll need to buy a new stand. What kind of filtration setup do you recommend for my tank? do i just buy an internal overflow and get my tank drilled? can i build an overflow? where do i actually have the tank drilled? what kind of skimmer can fit in a 10-20g sump? will the skimmer affect the refuge in the sump? what else do i need besides a pump? what do i do about hoses? sorry, i'm just frustrated and confused. any help appreciated.
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Old 06-24-2004, 12:35 AM   #2
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do i need to build a sump? what if i pick up a cpr bakpak2 and have 1pound/gallon of LR? would that be enough? is there a skimmer that can hide a heater??
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I am a big pro sump person. Sound like you have the lights right. I wish I had started with MH, it took me 500.00 worth of PC fixtures before I took that plunge. As far as your tank goes, here is what I would do, taking a low tech approach.

1.) Aqua-C EV-120 skimmer. Its overkill, however it wont hurt. If you don't want one of those, try one of the little euro reefs.
2.) 120lbs of LR with a 2" sugar sized sandbed.
3.) I know your limited here, but I would try to as close to gallon:gallon as you can on your sump and partition it for a fuge of at least 25% of your main tank. In the fuge I would put a 4 - 6" bed of LS or sugar aragonite and then seed with LS and add some LR to it.
If your going to do a sump its best to make sure you do the absolute best sump you possibly can. Stick a CPR 800GPH hang on overflow on the main tank, drain it down to your sump and then return it with a mag 9.5
Sumps for me is like an endless project. I am currently building my 4th as designing your own is a fairly large learning process. I finally think I have mine configured for the long haul, but only time will tell. Draw plans and post them if you would like more help, and best of luck to you.
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Old 06-24-2004, 06:27 PM   #4
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Brisc0,

thanks for your reply!

Those two skimmers you mentioned are $$$. I can get a cprpak2 for about half the price of a remora. are both of those skimmers sump compatible? will they be enough if i hang one off the back of the tank? are there any sites that explain drilling, overflows, and sumps? thanks
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Everything you need to know about sumps can be found at http://www.melevsreef.com/what_sump.html
The remora is hang on sump and the EV-120 is external or internal
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I am not going to go with a sump for right now and see how that all works out. For me, the cost and complexity of the system and the potential for failure is high enough that I will just take it easy and see how things go.
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