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Old 11-10-2003, 04:01 PM   #1
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my yellow tang

my yellow tang has like little black spots all over it not on hte fins though what is it?
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Old 11-10-2003, 04:16 PM   #2
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I would suggest you return the tang first off. A 7 day old tank is not ready to support fish as yet and definately not one as sensitive as a tang. Quite honestly you are moving far too quickly and adding animals at an alarming rate that could easily lead to a tank crash. If I am not mistaken you have also just recently added some LR which will greatly impair the water quality until it is properly cured. Please slow down...

To answer your question about the "black spots", it could be a turbellarian problem. Can you post a pic of the affected area?

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Old 11-10-2003, 04:34 PM   #3
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there flat worms i think ! i read about yellow tangs having issues with them mabe cause they easier to see on them !! have to pull out the bob fenners book and reread that one
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Old 11-10-2003, 04:51 PM   #4
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its been a month not 7 days
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110 lbs live rock Fiji,Caribian, Keys rock
40lbs live sand 100lbs araganite
15lbs black reg.sand
Berlin Classic with turbo upgrade
2 Maxi JEt Power head 1200
1 Rio 2100 for??
___live stock___
1 Ylw Tang
1 Chocolate Starfish
2 Green Damsels
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Old 11-10-2003, 04:53 PM   #5
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it could be a turbellarian problem ]


whats that its basicly all ofver the fish not like crazy speraticly
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110 lbs live rock Fiji,Caribian, Keys rock
40lbs live sand 100lbs araganite
15lbs black reg.sand
Berlin Classic with turbo upgrade
2 Maxi JEt Power head 1200
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___live stock___
1 Ylw Tang
1 Chocolate Starfish
2 Green Damsels
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Old 11-10-2003, 05:00 PM   #6
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i called up liveaquaria.copm and they said it can be black ich? they said to do a freshwater dip put him in a freshwater bucket for liek 2 min untill it starts getting stressed and they should fall off? ever hear fo that?
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40lbs live sand 100lbs araganite
15lbs black reg.sand
Berlin Classic with turbo upgrade
2 Maxi JEt Power head 1200
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Old 11-10-2003, 05:10 PM   #7
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That is still too young for the fast pace in which you are adding animals. Please slow down... I can assure you it is not healthy for the tank.

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i called up liveaquaria.copm and they said it can be black ich?
Black ich = turbellarian worms

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they said to do a freshwater dip put him in a freshwater bucket for liek 2 min untill it starts getting stressed and they should fall off? ever hear fo that?
Yes, but I would not bother with a FW dip after the infected fish is in the diplay tank. They are just as much a problem as any other parasitic pest and can migrate to other fish. Setting up a quarantine tank and treating all the fish with hyposalinity will be the surest, least stressful way of eradicating the pest. You will also need to leave the main display tank fishless for 4-6 weeks.

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so what should i do can this affect my inverts tho the star hermits or snails?
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15lbs black reg.sand
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1 Chocolate Starfish
2 Green Damsels
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so what should i do can this affect my inverts tho the star hermits or snails?
I was told ICK can be carried on snails etc but it cannot feed on them so it will die off in the 4-6 week period even if they are left in there. My tank has been fishless for about 5 weeks now, think I'm going to buy my fish back in this weekend, I can't wait!! I also learned a very hard lesson about setting up a Q tank and not adding anything to my main display unless it has been in the Q tank 2-3 weeks.
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Old 11-10-2003, 05:29 PM   #10
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Jamal is absolutely correct. The invert population will not be aaffected by ich nor turbellarian worms. Unlike flatwroms, turbellarians will not attack corals or other non-fish life.

Once the fish are in the QT and treatment is properly administered, you will still need to add small bits of food once or twice a week to the main tank for the inverts as well as maintaining the bacterial populations.

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