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Old 08-28-2011, 10:17 PM   #181
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Yeah but anerobic conversion of trates to nitrogen doesnt happen everywhere
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Old 08-28-2011, 11:03 PM   #182
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A dsb requires the sand remain undisturbed so that the anaerobic bacteria can grow. Plus its more likely to develop pockets of hydrogen sulfide which can royally kill everything if they get disturbed. So having a dsb in the display means avoiding residents who will disturb the bed so much.

That is why some advocate keeping it out of the display.
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Old 08-28-2011, 11:26 PM   #183
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I do agree that the dsb has to remain undisturbed, but its relative. Alot is dependant on tank size and what kind of sand sifters. I believe minor sand sifting in a dsb can be good because yes it wipes out te anerobic bacteria, but it does prevent bad build up of other deadly gases
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Old 08-28-2011, 11:35 PM   #184
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Very interesting...so if anything would a DSB be the safest in the refugium? To avoid the release of possible deadly buildup?
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Old 08-29-2011, 12:14 AM   #185
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i thought some sand sifting in a dsb was a must. not deep sifting or alot of sifting but some... sorry no input on dt or fuge... there are lots of people that have them in the dt. and if you dont mind seeing the blackening of the sand on the glass then put it in the dt just be mindful of live stock that you want in it and have. and you can greatly increase the safety of your dsb. and like wise if you dont want to see it, there are lots of people that keep it in the sump. but you will still need some pods in there, also a good place to grow your pods for your dt.. so ive heard anyway....

or you can say no dsb altogether and just do a berlin style sump that works well. so many different ways to filter your tank,

all that said i still have no idea what im talking about.
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Old 08-29-2011, 12:21 AM   #186
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I would still lean towards a dsb, it requires no maintence or upkeep, and honestly for any dsv to work,it relies on surface area.. Your sand bed in the tank has a TON of surface area
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Old 08-29-2011, 10:22 AM   #187
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I have the dsb and no sifters anymore unless you count the mess of sand my pistol shrimp kicks up from time to time. LOL

The only thing I don't like is you can see the yuck in the layers of sand. I scrape with a razor carefully at he sandbed edge to get the green algae line but underneath that I have diffetent shades of colors. make me think my tank is dirty all the time. BUT I guess it's working as my nitrates are low and I've switched to a water change every other week for now on this tank. But who knows. maybe the refugiun is the reason as well. I don't suppose theres any way to figure out if either is doing their job is there?
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Thanks for all the info, i am sorry that there are no pictures of anything. I have to get a truck so I can pick up this tank but it is purchased, this storm put a real halt on picking it up.

Also taking everyone advice and researching as much as I can before I buy anything to make sure I know what I am doing.
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Carey you could shut off the refuge and monitor for 5-7 days...thatll tell ya
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Old 08-29-2011, 03:38 PM   #190
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Hey, where does everyone buy there fish when they get them online?

If you do order online, do you usually take the day off from work to make sure you are home for the delivery?

Also, do Skunk Cleaner shrimp and Blood Fire shrimp get along? I love these guys.
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