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Old 02-03-2006, 09:53 PM   #1
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Hi everyone. I have been lurking around the message board for a few months now and have finally joined. This site seems to be a great place for information so that’s why I’m here.

My tank so far consists of
- 75 Gallon tank
- Live rock – I’m not sure how many pounds because it was given to me with the tank but it does take up a good portion of the back of my tank
- Live sand – I don’t remember what the weight was but when I bought it there was 2 bags in each box – total of 2 boxes
- 1 Seabae Clown
- 1 Singapore Angel
- 1 Small bright red starfish – It’s about the size of a quarter
Wet/Dry Filtration
A Magnum 350 Canister filter
Coralife lighting
(I do plan on buying a UV Sterilizer as soon as I get a little spare cash)

Yesterday being new to aquarium stuff I decided that the tank had been set up for long enough with no real maintenance done on the tank just due to the low amount of life going on in the tank. I took apart the Magnum filter, cleaned it, put it all back together, hooked it up and it doesn’t seem to want to bring water in from the tank to the filter. I was speaking with a friend of mine and he told me that sometimes this brand of filter can be a pain and he has experienced this same issue on his setup. If the Magnum filter is going to give me this kind of problem every time I take it apart to clean it am I better off purchasing another kind of filtration system? My friend had offered to purchase my magnum filter from me which would help pay for a new filtration system if I choose to take that route.

My questions for you is
- Do I scrap the Magnum and by something else that might be a little better suited for saltwater?
- If so which kind/brand of filter do you recommend and why
- I don’t really know much about protein skimmers but will one filter as well as the magnum?

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Old 02-04-2006, 11:05 AM   #2
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I've never owned a magnum, due to stories I've heard.

But a protein skimmer is NOT like a normal filter...it doesn't mechanically filter the water of particulate matter...rather it uses foam fractionation to trap organic compounds, then deposits them in a cup.
Skimmers produce so little flow, that you can't count them towards total circulation in the tank.

From the sounds of it, you don't have enough circulation as it is. A reef tank should have 10x per hour turnover for circulation. No idea what you have on the wet/dry for a pump, but I doubt even with the magnum you had enough.

I'm going to move your post to the General Saltwater forum so it gets more exposure, and replies. Many people don't look at the hardware section.
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Old 02-04-2006, 12:18 PM   #3
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It probably needs to be primed.

Get a skimmer instead of the UV. It will do a lot more good. AquaC Remora Pro is a good one, unless your wet-dry has a spot for an in-sump skimmer

when you get a skimmer you don't have to stop using the canister, but you do need to clean it every month or so.
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Old 02-04-2006, 01:27 PM   #4
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Yeah you have to "burp" (prime) the magnum fill it with water before you hook it back up. They are a pain, I ended up upgrading to an eheim.
A filter is no replacement for a good skimmer (I learned the hard way)
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how many members here use UV sterilizers, are they needed or just an extra addon if you have extra money kind of deal
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I think they are needed but that is IMO. Have not had an algea problem or ick problem in 6 years I `ve had UV. I definitely agree to get a skimmer but not at the cost of no UV.
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Old 02-04-2006, 09:26 PM   #7
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Welcome to AA!

I've never owned a magnum, due to stories I've heard.

But a protein skimmer is NOT like a normal filter...it doesn't mechanically filter the water of particulate matter...rather it uses foam fractionation to trap organic compounds, then deposits them in a cup.
Skimmers produce so little flow, that you can't count them towards total circulation in the tank.

From the sounds of it, you don't have enough circulation as it is. A reef tank should have 10x per hour turnover for circulation. No idea what you have on the wet/dry for a pump, but I doubt even with the magnum you had enough.

I'm going to move your post to the General Saltwater forum so it gets more exposure, and replies. Many people don't look at the hardware section.
Thanks for moving this to the General section. Any help I can get is appreciated. At the moment the tank is just FWLR. Do you guys think I still need more circulation even though it’s not a reef tank?

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A filter is no replacement for a good skimmer (I learned the hard way)
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But is a skimmer a good replacement for a canister? Should I ditch the canister all together or should I purchase a different brand canister and use it as well as a skimmer?

What other kind of filtration is available to me that might be worth while checking in to?
Thank you all for your suggestions and patience for “the new guy” :P
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i would say use both
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You have a w/d and what sounds like enough LR to be your filtration. A canister is not needed on your set up. What size pump do you have as the return pump to the tank from the w/d?
I would look into a skimmer and sell the canister filter. If you return pump does not push enough water look into a power head or 2 for added flow in the tank.
UV lights are not needed, they have there place but you can have a sucessful tank without them. Never had one on my fowlr and have not had one on my reef for about 3 years. Both taks are running great.

check into a good skimmer, do your homework on them before buying one, there are a lot on the market that are crap.
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I stopped running my eheim canister filter after I moved up to a sump and a skimmer. I am keeping it in case of emergency (to run carbon, phosban, chemipure, etc.) A canister is not needed but I did like having carbon running all the time and especially for the water polishing factor!
So heres my opinion:
Skimmer-must have when you see what it pulls out
UV-Optional (Use one if you have free floating algae or ick/parasites). I am actually looking into getting one currently
Canister-Optional (unless you have a reason to run carbon or clear up cloudiness)
Just my opinion though from what I have been through so far...and in the grand scheme its not that long
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