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Old 03-11-2009, 04:21 PM   #11
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Both threads merged together. Please dont double post same thread in different forums. Makes for a very untidy site.
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That's why you'll be spending money on several heaters and the electricity they consume. Though you'll be doing that regardless of your decision of reef/fowlr/fo.

Browse through the link above and start making your shopping list. It won't take long to realize the difference in cost between reef and non-reef.
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To give you a quick breakdown for price on a 30g tank.

Corals require light and light requires money. You can get away with T5 and maybe even PC lighting on a 30g tank if you are going to house low light corals. I've seen 30g setups with computer controllers and 250w of metal halide lighting. The sky really is the limit when it comes to these systems.

What you will need:

Lighting: probably cost between $150 and $350
Skimmer: get a good one! $150 - $300 (depending on brand)
Live rock: 50-75lbs @ $3.99-$8.99 per lb
Flow: corals require flow 20-30x turn over per hour (30g tank = 600phg - 900gph) This is just the flow in the tank you can achieve this with power heads
Filtration: I don't recommend HOB power filters or canister filters for a reef tank. I suggest the above amount of LR and a good skimmer along with a refugium (google it)
A Sump is a very good idea which means you will need an overflow box.

The point here is having corals is going to cost you a LOT more then just having fish. Corals themselves are very expensive specially if you are looking for those really interesting beautiful pieces.

You could easily spend well over $2000 on a 30g setup.
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wow i dont have that kinda money. i was looking for something like 500-600
so guess ill start off with FO or FOWLR and maybe in the future add corals
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im thinking about getting one of those biocubes. they come with lighting filter and skimmer and cost for 30 gal is around 300-400 dollors what do you guys think???
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That is a much better option. You will still need to get the amount of rock I suggested though it doesn't have to all be live rock. Go to the article section of this site and read about setting up and cycling your tank. The link that Mike provided also has some great information!
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wow awesome thanks for the advice now i just need to locate a store that sells them wow this sure is a costly hobby but its just so fascinating >.< i just can't get away from it. My mom is strictly against it right now but ill convince her haha
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im thinking about local since i don't want to pay for shipping because i live in canada. and USD is more expensive thanks for the help
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