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Old 06-29-2008, 06:01 PM   #61
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I've never purposely fed my cleanup crew (crabs, snails, shrimp). They'll get everything they need from the leftovers and all the other junk in the tank.

That food would be OK for your fish, but try and mix it up and give the fish some variety. Maybe that stuff one day, some frozen the next, etc. Pellets and flakes normally have more stuff in them that you don't want in your tank (phosphates, etc) so frozen is the best if you've got a place around you that has it.

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it's only going to cost me like $10 each time
Ouch!

You can pick up a bucket of salt mix online for $50 shipped to your house and it'll make around 150 gallons. That and a moderately priced RO/DI filter setup ($100-$200) seems like you'd be money ahead.
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Old 06-29-2008, 10:11 PM   #62
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Yeah... i probably will eventually make my own water... i did order a RO/DI that I am waiting on... but for short term that is only going to be to refill evap'ed water (and maybe some drinking water for me!).

Hey, i'm a little confused... you say that the Nassarius snails will all come out of the sand bed at feeding time but also say that you don't "feed" them anything because usually the algae is enough...
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Old 06-30-2008, 01:10 AM   #63
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Yeah... i probably will eventually make my own water... i did order a RO/DI that I am waiting on... but for short term that is only going to be to refill evap'ed water (and maybe some drinking water for me!).
Not sure why you wouldn't want to use it to make salt water, but to each his/her own. I wouldn't drink it - heard that RO/DI water is a bad thing to drink because it is stripped of everything, and can throw your electrolytes off. Never confirmed that - but I can tell you it doesn't taste good. That's why all those bottled water companies use RO/DI, but then put back in a bunch of minerals.

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Hey, i'm a little confused... you say that the Nassarius snails will all come out of the sand bed at feeding time but also say that you don't "feed" them anything because usually the algae is enough...
Actually, I didn't say both those things, but I did say...

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... which means the nassarius sense food like you wouldn't believe and come up to get fish leftovers. They're not algae eaters, but will have no problem finding junk to eat in the sand bed.
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Old 06-30-2008, 11:32 AM   #64
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Thanks Kurt -

- guess I prob won't drink the RO/DI then lol. Also, I will eventually make my own water but want to make sure I have everything established before learning something else LOL

- oh, and I didn't mean "you" said that. Was just replying generally to the forum. Sorry about that.

- the nassarius snails are the only ones I really can't locate / see.... but guess in time I will understand their behavior.

Oh, I love my emerald crabs! Very fun to watch and are grazing on all the spots that I have that bubble algea at.
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Old 06-30-2008, 01:41 PM   #65
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RO water is fine for drinking, just not RODI. Many systems come with a small tank to hold RO water under the sink and have a sink faucet that can be used.

The nassarius snails should pop out of the sand when you add food to the tank. If they don't, then they might not have made it.
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:11 AM   #66
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If you did order the RO/DI unit already you absorbed most of the cost to mixing your own water. The salt, mixing containers,a powerhead, Thermomoter and heater are only another 80 dollars or so And then you will know for sure what is in your water right now you are putting your trust into someone elses work. Plus lugging all those jugs from the LFS not fun lots of work!!! And having a tub for RO/DI water for topoffs and a seperate tub for Mixed water on hand is great in case of an emergency.
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:08 PM   #67
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update from the NOOB

i'm looking good (I think) LOL. Took water test today as follows

- 78.4 degrees
- 8.1 PH
- 0 ammonia
- 0 Nitrite
- 20 Nitrate
- 161.1 KH

I plan on doing water change tomorrow night. I am also purchasing Alkalinity, phosphate and calcium test sets tomorrow.

Questions - Do i need Iodine and Silica test sets in you opinion?

Fan still has not came in yet. I called and they said it was delayed and they shipped today! I have a tracking number now so at least I know it's on the way.

Here are some pictures: 1st 3 are just pics of my awesome tank. 4th pic is something that I noticed today.. looks like a mini fuzzy white star fish - I did some research and looks to be a "ASTERINA STAR"??? which seems to be harmless from what i'm reading.

I'm also seeing all sorts of things pop up... different bugs, algae etc.. They all seem to be harmless.

Xtalreef This is an awesome link that helped me identify almost all of the interesting things i'm finding in the tank!

Best of all... my 10 florida Turbos, 5 Mexican hermits, 3 emerald crabs and 3 peppermint shrimp are all doing GREAT !! every once in a while I see a nassarius LOL
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WOW!!!! I love the scaping! Where did you get that base?
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i'm looking good (I think) LOL. Took water test today as follows

- 78.4 degrees
- 8.1 PH
- 0 ammonia
- 0 Nitrite
- 20 Nitrate
- 161.1 KH

I plan on doing water change tomorrow night. I am also purchasing Alkalinity, phosphate and calcium test sets tomorrow.
Yup... looks like someone at the end of their cycle. Since you gave us a 161.1 KH reading, sounds like you have a alkalinity test already, so there's no need to buy one of those. I'm guessing you meant 161.1 ppm which would be around 9 dkH, or 3.2 meq/l. Here's a conversion table...

OZ REEF - Alkalinity Conversion

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I don't see a need for one, unless your curious about your levels. I use purified water, so I'm not worried about silica. But in your case using tap, if you have an algae issue, you might be interested in knowing your levels. I wouldn't worry about iodine unless you plan on adding it to your tank - and I wouldn't suggest that.
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I agree with Kurt. Congratulations!

Get a Mg (Magnesium) kit instead of the alk (you already have that).

You will be continually amazed at what seems to pop out of the rock over the next few months.

Be prepared for the outbreak of diatoms and algae that all new tanks go through.
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