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Old 10-23-2010, 04:02 PM   #1
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new sump setup help!!

i need alot of help setting up a sump. i really know nothing about setting these up and pumps required. first off i currently i have a 60 gallon tank with fluval 405 filter and HOB cpr bakpak skimmer..i will be moving my tank to a new home and now would be my chance to install a sump since i will have to empty my tank for the transition.

my question is...what kind of sump/filtering would be recommended and what kind of skimmer...i would like to hide the skimmer in the sump as well as the heater..i would prefer less equipment in the display tank.. i dont want to cheapest equipment as i dont want to keep upgrading but not the most expensive..i would like a decent somewhat basic and decent setup that would work good.

any suggestion i would greatly appreciate as i am going to probably need alot help and be asking questions.
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Old 10-23-2010, 09:00 PM   #2
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The best thing is to make your own with a standard tank. What size 60 gallon? 48x13? 36x18?

Get glass baffles whatever size you want/need and install them yourself. This will allow you to have the exact sizes you need. This way you can maximize refugium space without cutting into the pump or skimmer sections too much.

I use an Eshopps overflow box and Rio return pump.
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Old 10-23-2010, 09:35 PM   #3
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Well I do have an old 20 gallon tank I suppose I can use..But yes its a 48x13 I believe. Its acrylic. How about a Eshoppp wet dry filter WD-125cs or the 150cs. Are those any good? And Is a wet dry different from a sump? Sorry New to the whole sump thing
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Old 10-23-2010, 10:15 PM   #5
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A sump is a tank underneath the display tank that water drains into and is then pumped back up. In a sump you can have a wet/dry, refugium, skimmer, pumps, heaters, reactors, and many other things. Wet/dry is a type of filtration that is usually in a sump. In what I refer to as a modern reef aquarium a sump is used but not wet/dry, at least not bioballs. People found that if they took out their bioballs the only difference was less nitrate. Some replaced it with live rock, some simply don't use wet/dry at all.

Here is a picture of my sump. On the left you can see the 'bubble section'. This is where all water that goes into the sump is dumped. The overflow box drains into this section, as well as the skimmer, auto top off, and reactors. The middle section is the refugium. There are multiple types of refugia but the usual is used for nutrient export. To achieve this you put lots of 6500K lighting over this section of the sump and grow macroalgae (chaetomorpha is best). The last section is for pumps. The main return pump, skimmer pump, and reactor pumps are housed in this section. To the right of the sump you can see the 2-gallon reservoir for the auto top off.
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Old 10-24-2010, 12:06 AM   #6
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Thanks for the info..i probably wont be buying that wet dry system then..thanks for the links I will read them and post any further guestions after reading
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Old 10-24-2010, 02:36 PM   #7
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Ok I got done reading the articles and have a much better undertanding on sumps and overflows..now I am thinking I should have just bought the tank with build in overflow but I didnt since I knew nothing about it...anyways is there any off the shelf systems, sumps, overflows and pumps, that you guys would recommend? I really dont want to build one as I dont have access to such tools I might need
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Tools are just a caulking gun for a tube of silicone, a glass cutter (if you don't get it pre-cut), a utility knife, a flathead screwdriver, and maybe a hacksaw. It is really simple.

Off the shelf sump systems are very expensive and IMO a waste of money. For a fraction of the cost you can make your own sump and put the other couple hundred bucks towards lighting, more rock, etc.

I use an Eshopps oveerflow box. I did modify it in a few ways, but it is a great product and I would happily do it again.
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Is there any examples as to how to design one.. Also will I still be able run carbon in a sump system
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check out this site for information on sumps.
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http://www.melevsreef.com/allmysumps.html
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