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Old 03-25-2011, 06:56 AM   #21
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You should be cycled and you should leave the shrimp in till you get fish as an ammonia source.

2" sand bed will be fine and shouldn't become a problem. If you get lots of nassarius snails, they'll stir up the bed. Be wary of fish like engineer goby as they can rearrange rock with their digging. So If you want and big diggers, make sure rock is on glass. It's better to do a deep sand bed in your refugium so if it ever becomes a problem, you can close it off from the display. There's debate on the benefit of a fuge dsb because if surface area.

As for cleanup crew, the Norms are hermits, turbos, nassarius, astraea starfish, brittle stars. As far as quantities, no hard rule. Build them out as you go because you have a barren tank food wise.

Maybe you start with 6 hermits, 6 nassarius and 3 turbos. Wait on the stars. Remember that turbos bull doze everything so be careful with coral placement.

As for the heat situation. Get 2 300w heaters. One for backup, both in the sump. Nighttime could be a source of fluctuation and one 150 will not cut it for a 150.

To dissipate heat for this MH's, do you hav a canopy? Fans with the unit? You can always rig a couple of computer fans to blow air across the bulbs.
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Can you explain what you mean by the turbos "bulldoze" everything? And where should I not put my corals? I've been reading so much on corals and fish that I know nothing of snails and the like.

Will get the extra heater. Sounds like a good idea. My light is suspended from the ceiling behind the wall (tank is in the wall) 12" above the tank. It has a fan in it that runs when the MH come on. Keeps the unit pretty cooled off.

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Old 03-25-2011, 09:36 AM   #23
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They will move around and not worry about hitting rocks or anything else so are known to knock over small coral or rocks.

Edit: It is hard to type on a cell phone some times! Had to correct my grammar once on a computer
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you will need to attach corals with epoxy or glue. That way they don't get knocked over. Nothing worse than a beautiful coral knocked over or worse, knocked to the back of the tank where you can't reach
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I know I know!! Can't find time! I promise within the week I will let you see it in all it's glory and algae.

Just did 20% WC today. All good under the hood! (Actually there is no hood, but it rhymed). Aquascaping done. Need one more perfect rock. Will look this weekend.
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I have had the aragonite and LR in for over 3 weeks and am using 3 raw shrimp now for 3 days. My tests show NH3=0, NO2 =0, NO3 = 10. Have I missed the cycle?
your tank is cycled.
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Will get the extra heater. Sounds like a good idea. My light is suspended from the ceiling behind the wall (tank is in the wall) 12" above the tank. It has a fan in it that runs when the MH come on. Keeps the unit pretty cooled off.

Thanks for your advice. Very much appreciated.
how big is the fan. just for reference I had 4 120mm 800 rpm fans pulling 40.17 cfm each at 10.70 dba (lots of air...not much sound) and still saw about 0.3 degree fluctuation from A.M. to P.M. on my 120 running 6 80w T5HO's my canopy dimensions were 60"long x 18"wide x 10"high which put my lights about 8 inches off the water.

Don't buy fans from an aquarium store. I got mine here and they still run strong after a year.

CG Fan Bracket 120mm Kit for (2 Hole / Bare Kit ) Multimedia Cabinet Cooling / Home Theaters
The scythe 800 rpm fans are the best and you will need to add a power supply.
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So what's a bad fluctuation in temp from a.m. to p.m.? How much is too much?
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