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Old 09-27-2009, 09:43 PM   #1
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Newbie FO Tank..Eek!



I hope I am posting in the correct place! I also wish I had found this forum before today. I feel like I did everything wrong.

I have a very new FO 90 gallon System 2 tank with a 50/50 bulb. I received it as a special gift in March. We had ppl from the fish store come and set it up. Then we went to the store and added decorations (not live) and damsels. After about 8 weeks the fish store guys came back and declared my tank ready for more fish. We had started with 16 damsels and now have 10 (4 blues, 4 b&w stripes and 2 blues with yellow tails). They are all pretty small. Our tank stats were 0 nitrates, 0 nitrites, 0 ammonia, and a PH of 7.8.

Last night the fish store sold us 5 fish. We got a pair of Percula Clowns, Hippo Tang, and Henioches which had been in the same tank for 2 weeks. Then we bought a fame hawkfish from a different tank.

No QT. I didn't know and the fish store didn't mention it.

Today the Hawkfish is kinda hiding. The Hippo and Clowns seem to be doing alright. And the Henioches is hiding at the bottom in a corner at the back of the tank.

I'm worried about him! And I am worried I added too many fish. And I am worried I did everything wrong!

Any advice?
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Old 09-27-2009, 09:53 PM   #2
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If you just added them yesterday then they just need more time to get acclimated to their surroundings. Also that is a very large bioload to add at one time. It should have been done in stages. I sure hope your tank was cycled. Why so many damsels? You didnt cycle the tank with them? Read this

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I did it the way I did on the advice of the local fish store. Then when my henioches started acting this way I found this site. Now I am totally worried because I realize I have done things incorrectly.

I am especially worried that adding these 5 fish will ultimately kill everyone!
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Keep a check on the water parameters for the next week or so (ammonia, nitrite, nitrates) to make sure the new fish don't cause a spike. If it does, do a water change. If your nitrates start rising and stay up it might mean you have too many fish.

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I agree. I believe you will see an ammonia spike because of the added bio load but you can keep it under control by doing frequent PWC`s. What are your water parameter readings now?
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I ran to the store and got a testing kit.

0 Nitrates
0 Nitrites
0 Ammonia
8.4 PH

Is it odd for a fish store test to say 7.8 and then a home test to say 8.4?

When should I see an ammonia spike?
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I would say you just have to wait and see.
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I am worried that about your 0 nitrates. If you cycled your tank it should have some nitrates. Do you still have all those Damsels in your tank or did the store take them back?
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I have 10 damsels.

Should I have more nitrates?
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Another thing to consider....

Although the decorations are beautiful now, they will be very ugly soon. The natural process of a sw tank aging will bring things like diatoms early, algeas later on, various other things that look good on natural rock. Things will grow and it won't look pretty.

I'm wondering if the fish store has offered to come maintain your tank for you for a price. I'd get a good book, do some more reading, and consider not adding a thing until you know more without relying on the fish store folks.

What size is the tank and what kind of filtration?

Also, the heni and hippo tang are really sensitive fish for a beginner and a new tank. Who's eating? Are the damsels any where near agressive acting towards the new fish. Often, they can be mean little buggers and cause problems for even bigger fish later on. That can mean stress and sickness.

What kinda test kits are you using?
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