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Old 07-29-2006, 07:25 PM   #11
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We got a 29 gallon tank. There was a 125 gallon tank for $300 in the classifieds, but it seems to good to be true and I have no idea where I would fit it. It most likely has a leak for that price. We're setting our tank up and making sure the water is all cycled before getting the fish. I'm looking up what fish to get now. I'll update everyone with pictures when I get it all set up!
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Old 07-29-2006, 09:03 PM   #12
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congrats frogsNpigs - I have a 29G myself. Of course I want a larger tank - and will have one someday , but for now I have the 29G and two 20G's that my husband found in the attic. I'll be setting of the 20Gs in September (need to get rid of my carpeting first and don't want to move the tanks during the process).

You'll like the 29G - its tall enough for the angel you want (but may limit you to one due to territories - you'll have to ask Angel keepers) but manageable enough to "get your feet wet" (pardon the pun !) into fishkeeping.

Good luck and keep us posted !
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Old 07-29-2006, 10:42 PM   #13
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Thanks! I've decided to just get one angel fish after researching a lot. I don't have the room to have 3+, so he will have to enjoy the company of the other fish for now. I've made a list of the various fish I want, but I still have to see if the stores carry them. I hope they do, it will be such a beautiful tank! These are what I have in mind so far:
1 angel fish
2 Gouramis
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6 dwarf sucker catfish
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3 bronze cory/albino cory (whichever type is available)
2 Bolivian rams
2german blue rams
4neon blue rainbows
4silver dollars

How does that sound? Any suggestions are welcome.
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Old 07-30-2006, 12:15 AM   #14
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The silver dollars will get pretty big, so I'd leave them out. They really should have a bigger tank.

Cories need a bigger group...I'd say the minimum number is 4...but 6 is really better. I'd also pick either the bolivians or german rams. Most people don't keep them together because they could interbreed. Also they share the same area, so you could have territory problems.

If the rainbows are the only school you want, you can go with 6 or 8.
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Old 07-30-2006, 12:20 AM   #15
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be careful with two gouramis - they can get territorial. Do a search on this forum for the words *two gouramis* and see what comes up - I know there have been several posts in the past but I honestly didn't pay attention since I"m not fond of gouramis myself (I had some years ago - too fiesty for my tastes).

Ottos (which I think is what you called dwarf sucker catfish) can be a little sensitive, so you might want to consider waiting until your tank is more established before adding them. They're also very small and you could do some of the other fish in the "or" section with them.

I LOVE cories - I have panda cories and they are by far the most entertaining fish I've ever seen.

I also like the dwarf neon rainbows - nice choice.

Silver dollars get quite large so I don't think they're a good choice since the angle can also get very large.

Rams are also sensitive and I've seen other posts that say that you should only get them from a breeder (rather than petstore) for better luck. You can do some searches on rams or GBR in AA to see other posts.

You've been doing alot of homework - thats the right thing to do
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Old 07-30-2006, 06:34 PM   #16
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Thanks for the tips! I didn't realise the silver dollars got so big, they were in the same tank with the angels when I was looking for my tank, so that's where I got them from. I'll leave them out. I was going to add the dwarf sucker catfish or cories last so they had enough algea to feed on. Will one gourami be ok? I've only had gouramis once before when I was younger. We had two in a fish bowl and one killed the other. I want to try again now that they have loads more room, but if one will work, that would be fine.

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For other fish, many tetras will work...go for the non-nippy ones (flame tetras, rummynose, head and tailights, black neons, lemons, diamond tetras....) the list goes on. Also, harlequin rasboras go well with angels also. You can also keep cories, loaches, and plecos with angels.
I saw a lot of different tetras. I read that small tetras were not good for angels because they are an easy target. Is that true? I saw the harlequin rasboras at the petshop and they are tiny, I'm not sure if they will work or not. What sizes are ok?
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One gourami will work.

On the harlequins, they may be tiny but they make beautiful schools.

On the tetras - I think it depends upon the species. Neon tetras are definite no-no with an Angel as they are their natural prey.
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We finally found a stand for the tank and it's now beginning cycling. We'll be starting the fish additions either Wenesday night or Thursday. The harlequin rasboras are beautiful, I would love to get a school of them if it will work out. I saw a lot of bigger tetras that I would like to add to my tank if they are ok. They are the larger kinds, bigger than the neons. I finally located the neon blue rainbows yesterday, I can't wait to add them to the tank, they will just glow with the combination of the light and turqiouse gravel. One more question: will any community fish be ok? It's my understanding that they are not agressive? I saw a lot that were very striking that I was considering adding to my tank. Also, when's the best time to add the plants to the tank? I've heard when you put the first fish in, or after since some require a small bit of salt that will kill the plant. Which is true?
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WAIT !!!!

Before you add fish you want to make sure that your tank is really cycled. Add some fish food every day and see what happens to the ammonia and nitrites .... even with seeding material I don't think a tank could cycle in a week (but I could be wrong).

Have you read the articles on fishless cycling ? Below are two links that you should read (ignore the fact that it says saltwater - the same process happens in freshwater).

If the LFS told you to "just like it run 24 hrs .... 72 hrs .... a few days" they were speaking out of turn - its standard LFS talk. You'll soon come to realize you can't trust very many LFS' (you already saw that to some degree when you were checking out the silver dollars)

Here are the links:
http://www.aquariumadvice.com/articl...q=2&fldAuto=15
http://www.aquariumadvice.com/articl...q=2&fldAuto=21

Fishless cycling takes awhile (4 - 6 weeks) but cycling WITH fish usually takes longer and will require alot of water changes.
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Alright thanks. I know how petshops can be, they know nothing about small animals, so I guess it's the same with fish. We have a testing kit that we test the water every day and have started the cycling.
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