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Old 10-23-2012, 12:22 PM   #1
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i am such a newbie at salt its not even funny!
i have talked to everyone in my house and convinced them that i will be building a 100g salt later next year but in the mean time i am going to convert my sons 10 into a nano and give him a new 20 so he can have more fish.
i have to say that i have a slight problem right now with the amount of tanks i want and am starting.
i am fairly knowledgeable about freshwater so i know how to start one of those tanks but i want to know what all i need for the nano
i will get live sand and i was thinking of just using a few buckets of ocean water from the lfs since its only a 10 and it would be easier to start off with water already mixed with good salinity or i think.... anyone have thoughts on this?
can i do a fowlr with a 10 or will it basically only be able to keep corals?
if i can only do corals what other things do i need besides filter, heater, rocks and sand?
can a hob filter work? like the fluval c4?
if i can do a fowlr tank, what necessities will i need for that?
what fish or inverts can i keep?
sorry that i am flooding with questions but as my parents use to say
your never going to learn unless you ask questions!
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Well, as I understand things a nano tank is a tank that is setup with all of the filtration tucked behind inside the tank and also lighting so that when you buy it you (theoretically) don't have to do anything to it besides add water and cycle. So I'm not exactly sure what you mean when you say you are building a nano.

That aside, in terms of a 10 gal tank there are some very small fish you can house in them. They are usually gobies, people seem to prefer the clown gobies at times, but you are more likely to see an invert tank with some coral in these tanks. Surf around liveaquariua.com for awhile and you'll get the feel of what can go into such a small SW tank.
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:55 PM   #3
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i am such a newbie at salt its not even funny!
i have talked to everyone in my house and convinced them that i will be building a 100g salt later next year but in the mean time i am going to convert my sons 10 into a nano and give him a new 20 so he can have more fish.
i have to say that i have a slight problem right now with the amount of tanks i want and am starting.
i am fairly knowledgeable about freshwater so i know how to start one of those tanks but i want to know what all i need for the nano
i will get live sand and i was thinking of just using a few buckets of ocean water from the lfs since its only a 10 and it would be easier to start off with water already mixed with good salinity or i think.... anyone have thoughts on this?
can i do a fowlr with a 10 or will it basically only be able to keep corals?
if i can only do corals what other things do i need besides filter, heater, rocks and sand?
can a hob filter work? like the fluval c4?
if i can do a fowlr tank, what necessities will i need for that?
what fish or inverts can i keep?
sorry that i am flooding with questions but as my parents use to say
your never going to learn unless you ask questions!
Okay I'm assuming your talking gallon. Correct me if I'm wrong.
In a 10gal you will have to do daily top offs with RODI water and more water changes than usually would have to.
The ocean water you kinda wanna use the same type of water all the time in my opinion. It's not hard at all to get the right salinity.
If it's a 10gal, you can keep 1 fish... Possibly 2 but I can really only recommend 1. I it's a 10L it will have to be strictly coral and shrimp.
You will need: hydrometer, liquid tests for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, ph, if you do coral you will eventually need calcium, phosphate, alk, you'll want your own salt and RODI water on hand to make saltwater and do top offs with RODI, you'll need live sand, live rock/base rock(if you don't know I can explain the difference), you'll need a heater, thermometer, power head for the siZe of your tank, and if you plan on keeping coral you'll need a light that will support the coral

I hope I helped. Ask about anything you didn't understand
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:57 PM   #4
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sorry i meant gallons im from louisiana
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so i actually have lights specifically for a marine tank i just switched the bulbs out for fresh, they are 2 t5hos, i can switch them back, i know somewhat the difference is but can i do a fowlr with just 10g just so i know i can keep a fish alive in salt lol
i can go look at powerheads in a little bit on my lunch break how powerful do i need to look at?
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Umm... I'm not sure but if you look on the back of a korilia box (highly recommend this brand) it should tell you. A nano is anything under 30 gallons. In a 10 you could have a shrimp goby pair, a clown goby, or a small firefish... I'm sure there's a couple more options I'm not thinking of. Haven't been to the lfs lately so I'm forgetting some stuff :p lol
If I were you id get a small nano fish and put it in there let it get all good, make sure it's healthy Ect. Then if alls going well switch back the bulbs(blue bulbs are my personal favorite) and get a few starter coral also zoas, mushroom, ricordia,
It'll come together nicely and once you get the hang of it you can get some other coral too
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Umm... I'm not sure but if you look on the back of a korilia box (highly recommend this brand) it should tell you. A nano is anything under 30 gallons. In a 10 you could have a shrimp goby pair, a clown goby, or a small firefish... I'm sure there's a couple more options I'm not thinking of. Haven't been to the lfs lately so I'm forgetting some stuff :p lol
If I were you id get a small nano fish and put it in there let it get all good, make sure it's healthy Ect. Then if alls going well switch back the bulbs(blue bulbs are my personal favorite) and get a few starter coral also zoas, mushroom, ricordia,
It'll come together nicely and once you get the hang of it you can get some other coral too
The list provided previously is right on.


You could do a pistol shrimp/goby combination. They have a very cool symbiotic relationship.


I just purchased a pico PH. I've got the link somewhere on my thread. I can find it for you if you'd like. It has a max flow of 200gph.


Mixing salt isn't that hard. I've read great reviews on the petco natural ocean water so I am giving it a try in my 5 gal.


Make sure you have a lid on your tank. Gobies can and will jump. Plus it reduces water evaporation.


If you have a 2 bulb t5 I'd use 1 actinic blue and one white. Maybe a 12k color temp? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong there.


If you have an API freshwater test kit you can use it for your saltwater cycle. And if you use live rock the cycle should go pretty quick, hopefully!


Oh! Filters. You can us a HOB filter and replace the filter cartridge with live rock rubble. It works great, IMO.
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Agreed! I know my lfs has a couple other fish options that aren't mentioned much though.

I'd personally do a small goby or firefish and a cleaner/bloodfire shrimp and maybe a few sexy shrimp when you get coral in there
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Is a circulation pump a power head? At the Lfsandthats all I see
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I'm not 100% sure. But sounds about right.
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