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Old 07-10-2013, 01:57 PM   #1
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Nicki's 50 gallon starphire seahorse tank!

Hey people, how's life? Hope it's going great. Well, this tank be for my mom, to put in her office, but I'll be the one doing all the work. The main attraction will be one male and female H. Kuda seahorses. Tonight I'm going to buy a whole 50 gallon starphire rimless cube setup (that's a lot to say) off of a guy from a local reef forum.

My issue now is I have a 20 gallon tank set up w/ corals & a couple fish. The 50 gallon is going where the 20 is now. Should I put the livestock in buckets and put them in the 50 after I put in the new sand/rock? Or should I set up the 20 gallon somewhere else and dose ammonia the 50 w/ ammonia to make sure it's cycled after the big move. Basically what I want is for things to not die

One random question. Why are hermit crabs (except scarlets) not compatible w/ seahorses?

Here it is now. Looks crappy b/c yesterday I had to move the aquascape to catch my candy hogfish & damsel.





Here's the tank I'll be getting.

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Old 07-11-2013, 11:53 AM   #2
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Seahorses are a difficult lot and they need a tall tank. Small hermits will likely end up eaten by the seahorses and larger crabs will likely end up eating the seahorses. All in all, a seahorse tank is quite an advanced project probably not well suited for a workplace tank that you can't access any time you want.
There is good info in the net regarding keeping seahorses. Here's a good place to start...
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2004/12/fish2
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:10 PM   #3
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Seahorses are a difficult lot and they need a tall tank. Small hermits will likely end up eaten by the seahorses and larger crabs will likely end up eating the seahorses. All in all, a seahorse tank is quite an advanced project probably not well suited for a workplace tank that you can't access any time you want.
There is good info in the net regarding keeping seahorses. Here's a good place to start...
Aquarium Fish: Seahorse Care: A Basic Guide To Starting Your First Herd — Advanced Aquarist | Aquarist Magazine and Blog
They are difficult and require much care. I didn't believe you when you said the seahorses would eat the crabs, but after looking it up it's true. Surprising since their mouths are so small, and they seem so...peaceful .

It's a home office so it's an easily accessible tank. If it was in a workplace, I would agree with you that they wouldn't get the attention/care they needed.

I've already researched loads. I would not go into this adventure blindfolded. Seahorse.org has been a very helpful source for me, but that site looks great too. There's still a ton left to learn though.

I was actually ordered the 2 seahorses from Seahorse Source a couple days ago and they would have arrived today, but I put off my order for a couple weeks after talking to Dan, the owner. He was very helpful in supplying useful information. He was explaining to me that it's best to have a 30+ gallon tank for seahorses, not so much the size they get when mature, but that they need to be in a tank with a lot of filtration and a skimmer. With my 20 gallon, I only had a HOB filter for filtration. Also, low flow for a seahorse tank is a myth. In the wild, there are places where seahorses thrive where the current is very strong. Also if there's a lot of waste in a seahorse tank, it makes sense that having a strong enough current to keep that debris suspended.
In his experience when he put seahorses in a tank with much stronger flow that the seahorses became much more active.

This is my 3rd saltwater I'm setting up, so I do have some experience. It's not like I've always wanted seahorses and I'll throw some in the tank and food and hope they'll do well. I know the time and care they require and am prepared for that . Thanks for the advice.
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Here'a a little update of how it's looking now in the garage. Nothing leaks and it's working great. Still have to take everything out of my 20 which hopefully won't end in disaster.
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Finally it's all set up! Took the whole day, but it was worth it.

But what should I do about my fish and corals? Theyre in a styrofoam box w/ a filter right now. There are a few live rocks, but most of the rocks had been dried out. Live sand too and I'll add chaeto from my established tank, but it's still going to probably cycle. Should I dose ammonia to test when the cycle is done or should I add everything in when the parameters are good?
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Today I added enough ammonia to reach 1 ppm. Also put in a dirty filter sock from my other tank and some chaeto. Ammonia is going down but nitrite & nitrate is still 0. Bought some corals that will be going into the tank. They're not really seahorse friendly, but if there's enough macro algae maybe they will steer away from it.Red chalice, yellow milli, a zoa and a lot of branching Gsp.
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Looking good! I like that milli you got.
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Thanks I've never seen a yellow milli, but I do really love the color. In the picture it looks greenish, but it's a baby yellow.
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Dont know if anyone is following, but Ill keep posting updates to record my journey. Kind of fun to look back on projects. So heres whats going on. Tank is still cycling. Thought it would be much faster. I've been dosing only 1 ppm for the last 3 or 4 days. Tank is starting to get diatoms! Closer to being done.

Also some crazy discovery! A mushroom(?) on one of the rocks. This rock had been nearly dry, being left in a dry bucket for 2 days and yet this coral (hopefully) is still alive! It's been through a lot but it looks really healthy now despite me dosing ammonia. Tough stuff.

Lastly, the temporary tank went without a light or heater for 3 days! Yikes...it's pretty hot so the temp stayed at 74F, perfect for seahorses. Corals aren't super happy but they haven't died. The old light hanging from a ladder... The fish have come out and gotten used to their styrofoam home.

I really want this cycled already...
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