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Old 01-24-2005, 03:37 PM   #1
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OK it's decision time...

I can either:

1) wait until I get back from my trip on February 27 to start to set up my tank with LR and LS, or

2) I can set up with LS now and cycle it with a couple of returnable damsels so that I have something to watch in the meantime.

I admit, I'm getting jumpy doing all of this research and prep knowing that I won't be able to really get going until March.

What do you advise (or, what would you really do? )
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Livestock I added:

1 skunk cleaner. 12 hermits: red, scarlet, blue. 15 or so assorted snails. Discosomas, Ricordia, Rhodactis mushroom corals, chaetomorpha (sump), 1 feather duster, Montipora digitata, Montipora capricornis, Montipora hispids. assorted zoos, Xenia, Kenya tree coral, green Sinularia, green star polyps, branching hammer coral, bubble coral, Devil's hand leather. Yellow chromis, purple firefish.

Hitchhikers: the usual suspects :crabs, bristles, urchin, mantis shrimp (now in exile in mantis tank)

List of possible/likely newcomers:

Feather duster. PJ cardinal, Bangghai cardinal, Firefish goby, Clownfish, Neon goby, Yellow watchman goby, Orchid dottyback. Various corals.
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Old 01-24-2005, 03:40 PM   #2
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i would wait chances are if u cycle now and add rock later the die even in cured rock will spark another mini cycle
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Old 01-24-2005, 04:29 PM   #3
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I would wait too. Or set it up with live rock / sand now. That way when you return you should be ready. How long will you be gone? Do you have someone to top off your water while you are away?
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Old 01-24-2005, 04:36 PM   #4
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Check out this article.

http://www.aquariumadvice.com/showqu...q=2&fldAuto=15

Depending on how long you are going to be gone, you tank may be cycled and ready to go when you return. I would agree that LR and LS at the same time might be best to avoid die off later on.

I would avoid the damsels unless they are part of your long term plans. It is hard on the fish, the are aggressive and tough to catch if you do want to remove them later.

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Old 01-24-2005, 04:36 PM   #5
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I agree about setting it up now with LR. That way the cycle will be done when you return. I wish I didnt have to sit and watch a cycling tank. Make sure you have someone to topoff and check the filters. When you get home check the water for amm, nitrites and if both are zero do a good water change and pick out some fish to QT.
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Old 01-24-2005, 08:32 PM   #6
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I would wait...... In a new tank with new plumbing I would make sure someone is there to check on the tank to make sure you have no leaks or that nothing breaks down. A lot of things can go wrong in the first few days/weeks of a new tank.
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Old 01-25-2005, 09:36 AM   #7
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It looks llike I may have found a tank sitter. Assuming I get my tank set up (with rocks from liverocks.com) and running by the end of next week (Feb 4), it will be 2 weeks into the cycle when I leave for Sicily (on the 18th, return on the 26th). I am assuming (and hope to be corrected by you guys if I'm wrong), that the bulk of the heavy cycling will be completed by then, and that a tank sitter will need to do little else but top off with fresh water and empty the skimmer cup (I'm not sure yet if it's plumbed for drain off or if I should risk doing it - it's an in-sump AquaC Urchin skimmer).

Can anyone give me a reasonable ballpark timeline for cycling with live rock from liverocks.com? I know there are many variables, but assuming a "typical" timeline, could I accomplish what I outlined above without worrying? I'd LOVE to be able to start adding inverts and fish when I get back.
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SG 1.024, temp 79.5, pH 8.4

Livestock I added:

1 skunk cleaner. 12 hermits: red, scarlet, blue. 15 or so assorted snails. Discosomas, Ricordia, Rhodactis mushroom corals, chaetomorpha (sump), 1 feather duster, Montipora digitata, Montipora capricornis, Montipora hispids. assorted zoos, Xenia, Kenya tree coral, green Sinularia, green star polyps, branching hammer coral, bubble coral, Devil's hand leather. Yellow chromis, purple firefish.

Hitchhikers: the usual suspects :crabs, bristles, urchin, mantis shrimp (now in exile in mantis tank)

List of possible/likely newcomers:

Feather duster. PJ cardinal, Bangghai cardinal, Firefish goby, Clownfish, Neon goby, Yellow watchman goby, Orchid dottyback. Various corals.
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i would set it up and let the cycle start along with allowing the pod population to start to grow some while your gone as long as your sitter can keep a eye on things ! the longer the rock sits with out fish the better
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the longer the rock sits with out fish the better
Won't it eventually need an ammonia source (fish) to sustain the bacteria?
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SG 1.024, temp 79.5, pH 8.4

Livestock I added:

1 skunk cleaner. 12 hermits: red, scarlet, blue. 15 or so assorted snails. Discosomas, Ricordia, Rhodactis mushroom corals, chaetomorpha (sump), 1 feather duster, Montipora digitata, Montipora capricornis, Montipora hispids. assorted zoos, Xenia, Kenya tree coral, green Sinularia, green star polyps, branching hammer coral, bubble coral, Devil's hand leather. Yellow chromis, purple firefish.

Hitchhikers: the usual suspects :crabs, bristles, urchin, mantis shrimp (now in exile in mantis tank)

List of possible/likely newcomers:

Feather duster. PJ cardinal, Bangghai cardinal, Firefish goby, Clownfish, Neon goby, Yellow watchman goby, Orchid dottyback. Various corals.
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thats what the fresh uncooked shrimp is for
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