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Old 07-07-2003, 02:56 AM   #1
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ok need some advice

I am currently using a 75 Gallon SW setup and going eventually for corals/fish. I have the sand and water in there now and has been for 2 weeks. I tested the water and everything seems fine so far.(nitrates/ammonia/ph) aslo the salinity is at 1.020.

So...whats my next step? getting the LR or getting a small cleanup crew first?

Also what type of rock is good? I'm thinking price here. Best place ive seen so far is www.thepetstop.com. Now my question is can I go for like 50 pounds of cured base live fiji rock and 30 pounds of uncured fiji LR? I just dont wanna make the mistake of getting the wrong rock. also whats the dif between "base" LR and reg LR? that website shows both reg and base and the base is A LOT cheaper.

Oh and ive got the sump/heaters/protein skimmer/lights etc already.

Any suggestions would be great thanks.
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Old 07-07-2003, 03:14 AM   #2
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Pesonally, i would get the uncured LR because your tank is so young, you can cure the LR in the tank while you use it to cycle you tank at the same time.
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you said that you've added the water and sand.. did you put like a shrimp in there to help get the cycle started?? base rock is rock you put with the live rock in hopes that it will soon become live rock itself.. i would go for uncured live rock too as long as you don't have anything living in the tank
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nothing in there living at all. not even shrimp. what kind of shrimp should I get and can I get them at a pet store that carries fish? From what I've read so far looks like i need 2 large shrimp? should I wait til i get the LR b4 the shrimp?

so "Base" rock isnt live rock? is there a chance that it wont become live rock? also is it safe in the tank with live rock?

sorry for 50 questions. I have no idea what im doing lol.
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base rock will become live rock it just needs time. i believe the "shrimp" they were talking about is for cycling the tank they are dead uncooked shrimp from the grocery store. shrimp are sensitive if you added one before the tank cycled it would die. plan on hurrying up and waiting this is a hobby that a lot of patience is required.the upside is it is worth it
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I also think your salinity is a little low, boost it up to about 1.023.
It usually takes several months for base rock to become liverock, it will help
if you buy live rock to get the process going a little quicker.

When you say everything tested "fine", what do you mean? Because what you want is for it to become very "unfine" for awhile, that gets the bacteria growing that you want in your tank. That is where the cocktail shrimp comes in. Toss one or two in your tank, as it rots, the bacteria starts to grow. After two or three weeks, sometimes more, the water will test "fine" again. That is when you know it is safe to start adding livestock.
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Old 07-07-2003, 01:43 PM   #7
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You could also try Hawaiian Island dry base rock. It will do much the same and save you some $$. A 60lb box is $44.00+$36.00 shipping leaves you with $1.33/lb. A great savings and the dead base rock can easily be seeded by the uncured live rock.

I would leave off any inverts/clean up crew until after the addition of the LR and the ensuing cycle that will follow. Let the tank run for about a month and monitor the levels. After that you should be good to go.

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ok thanks for the info. i went to the store today and got 2 uncooked jumbo shrimp and put them in my tank.

so not i just play the waiting game? what will the shrimp look like when its due to come out? also should I do a water changes while I let the shrimp rot in there?
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Old 07-07-2003, 11:41 PM   #9
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The shrimp will end up looking like a ball of goo no doubt. It really depends on how long it takes to cycle the tank.

You should never do water changes while cycling a tank. Especially when no live animals are invovled. It will just slow down the process and remove the necessary nutrient that will aid in building the proper nitrosomonas and nitrobacters.

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When your ammonia has spiked to large proportions, it is time to take the shrimp out. My readings usually maxed out the color chart.
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