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Old 02-02-2005, 05:23 PM   #1
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Oops! What have I done?

Can anyone give me a suggestion on what to do about my algae problem? (hair algae). I have manually removed (scrubbed every inch of algae on LR), I have reduced feeding, I have reduced lighting, I have changed top-off what to Catalina Real Saltwater, I have rearranged rock set up. . . .any suggestions? PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tank is 72 gal FOWLR (about 110 lbs). Crushed coral substrate. Overflow, sump with bioballs and protein skimmer.

One problem. . .my fish selection causes me to be limited on fish or inverts that can help with the problem. In order of introduction into tank: (4) small stripped damsels, (1) dominoe damsel, (1) 3" clarkii clown, (1)4" porcupine puffer, (1) 3.5" undilated trigger and (1) small/med lunare wrasse. There is seldom nipping of fins, undilated actually hides a lot.

Once scrubbed and moved rocks around. . .stayed good for a while. But now, back with vengance.

Do I need to remove some fish (too many in tank)? Maybe could suggest a fish I could get to eat it all? Lighting food reduction more?

Please help.

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Old 02-02-2005, 05:43 PM   #2
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Do you have any PH in your tank? If not. I think this is why you have algae problem. You will need atleast 3 PH for a 72 gal tank if not already have. Position them by pointing the direction of flow toward the front glass,sides, back if possible. HTH .
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Old 02-02-2005, 06:03 PM   #3
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I have pump and then just one PH, guess maybe will try that. . . .what GPH to get on PHs? I mean, should I be concerned with the rate since the flow is already good leaving and entering the tank?
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Old 02-02-2005, 06:15 PM   #4
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test your tank water and source water for PO4. Also check your nitrates. What is your feeding and lighting schedule?
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You choice of tank inhabitants might be aggravating your problem. You have some mighty messy eaters in there, particularly the porcupine puffer (which by the way will grow large enough to eat the smaller fish you have in there). Unfortunately with these large predators you can't keep snails or shrimp which would really help in eating that leftover food and other sources of nutrient overload. Try to get some macroalgae growing to compete with the hair algae. Keep at it, most people beat hair algae with time and experience.
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I have pump and then just one PH, guess maybe will try that. . . .what GPH to get on PHs? I mean, should I be concerned with the rate since the flow is already good leaving and entering the tank?
Since you already have 1 PH , I recommend getting another 2x MJ 1200 PH for the rear corners of the tank. You want good flow currents in your tank to prevent the food from settling down too fast on the bottom, but not too strong that it causes a sand storm in your tank. So yes check the GPH when you buy the PH.
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test your tank water and source water for PO4. Also check your nitrates. What is your feeding and lighting schedule?
Your water parameters will help get to the root of the issue. Also, are you using tap water or RO? If using tap it is a likely source of your problem as well.

If your nitrates are high larger pwc and reducing the bio load would help. Also how many bio balls do you have and have you ever cleaned/rinsed them? Bio media tends to be a source of high nitrates if left unattended for long periods of time.
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vacume out the cc, when i had a cyano outbreak i did this three time during three partial water changes and man did I remove a crapload of gunk, the rest was removed by my skimmer
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Thank you everyone.

I purcahsed 2 more PH yesterday (so now 3).

Yeah, fish choice. . .I know , but they were just so cute . I also purchased a PO4 tester, it is about 0.2. Which isn't bad, right?

When I do water changes and top-offs. . .I use Catalina Real Saltwater. So, I don't use tap or RO/DI water. In some cases I use RO/DI from the LFS, but mostly the Catalina water.

Okay, bioballs. . .no I didn't know I had to check them . Actually, this is my second tank, last time I had a 55 gallon but used biowheel. . .never had a algae problem. So. . .what do I need to do with the bioballs. . . .even read that I might want to get rid of them, esp. with the LR I have. Gosh as for the amount of bioballs (got system from friend) they sit under the tray. . .probably about 10 cups full.

Lighting: one ballast is broken, so using 65 watt (2 ) 10K and (1) Actnic (whatever it is). Hours of operation 11 am - 8 pm, I had shortened it for a while.

Feeding: Bloodworms- Puffer won't eat anything else (picky) and eats it in almost one mouthful. 2 cubes of either brine shrimp or marine blend.
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what do you use to top your tank off daily? if you top off with saltwater you SG will go through the roof. maybe i am just misunderstanding.

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