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Old 11-06-2003, 02:20 AM   #1
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pod piles for green mandarin dragonet's

i am new to salt water and am currently in the prosses of setting up a 20 gal fish only tank
i want to get a green mandarin dragonet but they are hard to feed. i have read a little about pod piles but havn't found any detailed description on what needs to be done to make one. any one had any experience with these and will this be enough to keep a green mandarin in my 20 gal?
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Old 11-06-2003, 05:53 AM   #2
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will this be enough to keep a green mandarin in my 20 gal?
No, a single mandarin will need approximately 100 lbs of mature LR that has been free of other micro predators. Even then an established refugium doesn't hurt.
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Before I bought my mandarin it was eating frozen brine at the LFS.
I only have 50 lbs of LR in my tank but I do have a HOB refugium.

All in all my mandarin feeds on the Frozen foods. Hopefully you can get one that feeds this way.
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what are pod piles?
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Crush two tbs minced mint leaves (no stems) with the juice of two limes, two tbs of sugar and a shot of light rum. Marinade eight cleaned jumbo shrimp for two hours in fridge or overnight (overnight is best). Skewer and salt shrimp. Broil or grill over medium high heat until shrimp become opaque (apx. two and a half min per side). Serve with black beans cooked with garlic, green onions, bacon and topped with a slice of lime.
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I did the same research before I got my mandarin. I thought that a pod pile or two would be a good idea, but they would probably initially give too big of an amonia/nitrite/nitrate spike to be much good for everything else (including the mandarin). I got one that feeds on brine shrimp as well and has done well for about 4 months now, but it's diet is definately being assisted with pods (I have a 120g with about 120lbs of live rock.

Ask to see them fed before you pick one to see if it eats frozen food.
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What are micro predators? I'm assuming something that would compete with the mandarin for pods?
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Pods eat Phytoplankton, so adding a live Phytoplankton solution to the tank or refugium regularly would be good, in my humble opinion.

I add live phyto to my tanks in the recommended amounts.

Soft corals and dusters and things also feed on Phytoplankton.

For the pods, it's a sort of "feeding your food" thing.
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Mandarins need large amounts of LR/pods ... if you don't have it... don't do it. They will surely starve. I have over 130# of LR in my tank and did not add my mandarin until about 5 months after my tank cycled.
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. i have read a little about pod piles but havn't found any detailed description on what needs to be done to make one.
What is a pod pile?
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Crush two tbs minced mint leaves (no stems) with the juice of two limes, two tbs of sugar and a shot of light rum. Marinade eight cleaned jumbo shrimp for two hours in fridge or overnight (overnight is best). Skewer and salt shrimp. Broil or grill over medium high heat until shrimp become opaque (apx. two and a half min per side). Serve with black beans cooked with garlic, green onions, bacon and topped with a slice of lime.
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What is a pod pile?
They're just basically little piles of rubble (small pieces of LR, broken shells, etc.), placed in a hill, or *pile*.

For some reason, pods thrive and reproduce like crazy in these little mountains.
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