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Old 09-11-2013, 03:53 PM   #11
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Right, I agree. It's my first saltwater aquarium and if I can recreate what an mp 40 can do for half price, why not.
I will agree with that good point.

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This is when I was setting up you can see how I ran them.
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Old 09-11-2013, 04:34 PM   #12
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I will agree with that good point.

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This is when I was setting up you can see how I ran them.
1. My clown trigger knocked mine down several times that i witnessed (maybe he didnt like the noise or maybe it was accidental but it happend at least 6 times in the few months i had them)
2. My MP40s mysteriously ended up separated when I got home on more than a handful of occasions.
3. They are still not that sleek looking in my opinion no matter how the wires are ran.
4. I find it hard to trust a magnet holding up $1600 worth of pumps that could hit my hardwood floor and damage the pumps or floor so the safety chain setup was my only option.
5. I ran two towards the top of the water and two towards the middle of the tank so the deeper you put the pump the more wire to "hide" Which is impossible on a 210 the center pumps were a foot in either direction across glass that you could not hide wires on they were just there.
6. The pumps hanging off outside of the glass were cool but people grab them wondering what they are and there goes the wet side down into the sand again. And they get to be just as much of an eye sore to me as the internal PHs so i figured id use cheaper eye sores lol.
7. The dry side is pretty loud when you have spent so much time tuning your tank for silence and then you hear a constant wirrrrrrrrrrrrr wirrrrrrrrrr wirr wirrr wirrrrrrrrrrr sound coming from a $400 power head
8. The noise was still noticable at only 50-60% power. EcoTech did send me several replacements but they were never any quieter than the previous ones.

As you can see they did not fit my needs in the least bit. Not saying they aren't for somebody but they weren't for me and my tank. At $400 a piece they should have been absolutely silent and thats my biggest complaint.
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:10 PM   #13
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Ok I hear if its not for you. How thick is the glass on the tank they where on remember the 40's is up to certain thickness. For me I rather see the cord outside than inside the tank plus I found them for less when I was looking for them. But I think I would of still paid for them I love the performance and the look I hear bout people with the noise but never had that problem.
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Old 09-11-2013, 06:48 PM   #14
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Ok I hear if its not for you. How thick is the glass on the tank they where on remember the 40's is up to certain thickness. For me I rather see the cord outside than inside the tank plus I found them for less when I was looking for them. But I think I would of still paid for them I love the performance and the look I hear bout people with the noise but never had that problem.
MP40s are good up to 3/4inch and 500 gallons. I had 4 on my 210 with 1/2inch glass and wasn't impressed for what I paid. I had the MP40 "wireless" models and I doubt they are found for less than $400 New. Just figured for $1600 they would be better than they were i like my koralias better on the wave maker.
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My biggest thing with the Vortech PH are they only point on one direction where other brands you can point in any direction. Price is a big factor.
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Old 09-11-2013, 07:19 PM   #16
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My biggest thing with the Vortech PH are they only point on one direction where other brands you can point in any direction. Price is a big factor.
Price is the only point. You still get flow all over the tank. It comes down to what you like and will to pay for it. He loves his K's and I love my M's.
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Old 09-11-2013, 07:33 PM   #17
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Price is the only point. You still get flow all over the tank. It comes down to what you like and will to pay for it. He loves his K's and I love my M's.
There is more than the point of price that steers people away from these pumps. and there are some that only buy it because they cost so much and they think they must be the greatest things on earth lol. To each is his own.
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OP... The 6045s are not controllable via their head unit. They are either on or off and you adjust the flow manually with a little slider thing on the pump housing. A proper Tunze setup that will let you mimick a Vortech will cost you just as much as the Vortech.
If you want to save some money and mimick a Vortech then, as previously suggested, look into the Jebao WP25 or WP40. They look exactly like a Tunze. The head unit is quite flimsy, and it is obvious that corners were cut to reduce price, but the pump itself is solid.
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Wow. Love hate relationship. I love my MP 10 and getting another one for my new build.
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This is what i told another hobbyist that was in the market for powerheads. IF you want a simple wavemaker ph that gives you random currents and flows, the vortechs arent for you. ( anything from the hydor koralias on their wm controller to tunzes pr jebaos would be better) However, IF you plan on utilizing the key features pf the MP series (master/slave modes, custom wave profiles, wireless controllability via apex controller) then the MP's will outshine the rest. What it boils down to is that they are just overpriced powerheads for those that have minimal equipment and minimal needs, but are amazing powerheads with alot of customizable options for the more complicated hobbyists with the proper equipment to use them.
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