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Old 01-10-2013, 06:49 PM   #1
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Question about cycling

How long for ammonia to start being detectable? My 29 gallon system will be set up a week tomorrow. I have 45 lbs of live rock in it. Running a protein skimmer as well. Ammonia is still at zero. At this time, I'm choosing not to add the raw shrimp. I've read/researched both sides of the raw shrimp issue and my lfs store was against it so I decided not to do it. Should I have had a detectable amount by now? Would I have if I'd added the shrimp? I was just wondering when the ammonia should be detectable. I could not find the answer to this in my research. Thanks for your help. Getting addicted to this forum. Haha
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Without shrimp or a fish (some people use Damsels), you will not get ammonia. There's nothing in there to create it. Shrimp starts to decay and fish produce waste. That gets the cycle going. I don't think the skimmer is going to do much at this point either...nothing to pull out of the water yet.
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What about the die off on the rock. Will it not create a large enough cycle?
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It would depend on the rock. Sometimes yes, and sometimes no. Why was your LFS against adding an ammonia source? There is no downside to it.
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No, there isn't enough. A cycle will last around a month, in estimate. Even when dosing ammonia to cycle you need to continue to provide more Ammonia as it gets consumed to make sure it keeps going. This is why I like the shrimp method best as it is a constant. Also demonstrates why you should remove a dead fish ASAP.
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Not sure why the lfs was against but he said if I add to add only a SMALL piece. So ill get a shrimp to but in. Do I leave it in there until the ammonia reads zero or until the ammonia spikes?
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You could toss in a whole shrimp. It won't hurt anything. You could take it out after the ammonia spikes if you like. Either way will be fine.
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With 45 lbs of LR in a 29, you may get only a small cycle that's barely detectable if your lucky. Keep your skimmer off during the cycle as it removes the stuff before it becomes ammonia which delays the cycle.
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Would you add more live rock? I also have 20 lbs of live sand. I was hoping to go with the live rock, cuc, and skimmer with no mechanical filter.
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"cuc" is nothing more than creative marketing. You don't need a single crab, snail, or starfish to keep a thriving system. Don't count that into your nutrient export. Export means leaving the tank, not getting eaten. Your mechanical filter is a protein skimmer.
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