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Old 11-14-2004, 08:32 PM   #11
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cant you cycle your tank with the clown fish, seeing as they are a member of the damsel famly and pritty hardy?
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cant she cycle with the clown fish seeing as its part of the damsil famly and extreamly hardy.
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Old 11-14-2004, 08:38 PM   #13
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Dont cycle your tank with any fish. Use a raw shrimp or another method.
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Old 11-14-2004, 10:53 PM   #14
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using fish is just as good as the raw shrimp meathod but you get to watch the fish fish in the mean time. id much rather watch a fish swim around for a month then watch a dead shrimp rot
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Except when you end up with dead fish. Which is the whole point of the raw shrimp/uncured LR cycle.
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as long as you to a 10 percent water change every week while its cycling its perfectly fine to cycle with a live fish
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I'm not sure I understand what kind of lighting I would need to keep live rock. Also what kind of substrate should I use with clownfish? Also what extra work would I need to do if I didn't buy a protein skimmer...there really expensive and it doesn't seem like they are completely worth it. Also if I didn't buy live rock would I need to buy anything else so that the clownfish could hide in something?
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2-3 watts/gallon would probably be fine. You can use regular flourescent bulbs (make sure to replace them every 6months though). Live rock is still a filter even without any light, but it won't be covered with various nice algaes and such. An argonite (non-silicate) sand is best. LFS brands include Carib-sea Agramax. You can get lots of argonite sand for a lot less money in various parts of the country seasonally as play sand, but its really hit or miss whether its silicate or argonite. You can also use crushed coral, but you need to vacuum it out occasionaly as it turns into a pile of rotting waste after awhile. Sand is preferred if you're keeping some hermits or other sand sifting critters.
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you really dont need to fork out the extra cash for the live sand. most anything works just fine. just get normal lighting. like small floresent tubes. even better, you can get special power compact lights all ready set for you with a nice case at the lfs. and it usaly come with 1 atinic blue and one full spectum. its also usally well priced. ide sugest it over plain floresent tubes.
you really will be happier if you get some kind of rock to put in the tank. other wise your fish will just have a wide open space with no hiding spaces. rocks arnt nessasary but your going to want them.
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Old 11-15-2004, 11:39 AM   #20
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Never cycle a tank with a live animal no matter how hardy they are deemed by some. It is quite a cruel practice considering the alternatives. Ammonia can be quite lethal and have long term affects on the fish's health, not to mention leathal. The nitrite stage in which the fish will spend most of it's time (2-4 weeks) will be struggling to breath. Nitrite inhibits the hemaglobins ability to absorb and carry O2, in effect suffocating the fish.

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OK so all I would need to have clownfish is:
30 gal aquarium
Protein Skimmer
Live Rock
Filter
Air Stone
Air Pump
Some Inverts that Clean
As far as the list above it's fine the way it is although with the LR you do not really need the filter. I would instead you opt for a few good powerheads. If you already have the filter it can still be used though, I just would spend extra cash getting one. The airstone and airpump are definately not needed.

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This is an animal well into your tanks future so you have plenty of time to decide on lighting. For now I would just use whatever came with the tank. Once you decide on what direction the tank will go in (ie.. FOWLR or reef) then you could opt for better lights but your in no hurry.

The only anemone you would be able to comfortabley house in a 30 would be a BTA and 2x65w PC or equivalent would be the bare minimum. As I said though, the anemones addition about a year away.

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