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Old 01-28-2012, 12:42 PM   #1
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Salt tank with no live rock?

Has anyone done a salt tank without the rock? What results did you have? Any tips for success?
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Old 01-28-2012, 01:38 PM   #2
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My tip get some rock
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Old 01-28-2012, 02:09 PM   #3
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It can be done as the LR is filtration and additional area for BB to grow...but I don't see a reason to not have LR.
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Old 01-28-2012, 04:10 PM   #4
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It's a money thing. 4 year old wants a Nemo fish (I do too) but even a 10 gallon with rock is tough on the budget.
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You can set up a 10g fowlr really cheap. You can just get some base rock, which is about $2/lb (5-7lbs would be plenty), salt mix, refractometer, filter, heater, tank... probably about $150 or so if you get everything new.
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Old 01-28-2012, 07:19 PM   #6
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Check out craigslist and local forums for rock even some dead rock will become live rock with time. Base rock is always a possibility as well. Remember starting with a 10 gallon and one clownfish the fish will grow and probably need a bigger tank sooner than later.
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Old 01-28-2012, 08:26 PM   #7
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Reefrocks.net has some really good rock. I got this much for $30 About 13lbs and it's enough for a 10g. I'd have to disagree about the clown. I think 1 Occelaris could live a full life in a 10g and be happy but that's the min. I'd recommend.
Note*** Each rock is about 4"x4" some even larger.
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Old 01-28-2012, 09:34 PM   #8
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Did that include shipping?
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Old 01-28-2012, 10:07 PM   #9
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Did that include shipping?
Yep. 10lbs at $2 per pound then $10 shipping.
Edit: I ordered 10lbs but got 13lbs so I am very happy with my order. I asked for 10 pieces too and that's what I got.
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Old 01-28-2012, 10:23 PM   #10
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Mmmmm I'll have to remember that... That live rock or just plain rock
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You need to get live rock to seed the sand to keep the nitrites low.
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You need to get live rock to seed the sand to keep the nitrites low.
Not sure where you got this information, but it is wrong.

Beneficial bacteria will coat all surfaces, whether it is the glass of the tank, base rock or sand. Some LR is needed to seed the tank with coralline algae, or you could get some some scrapings from a local reefer.

There are 3 different strains of bacteria in the Nitrogen cycle. Fish wast and excess food gets broken down creating ammonia in the tank. Bacteria eat the ammonia and produce Nitrites which are consumed by another strain, producing nitrates, which are consumed by another type or removed by partial water changes. That's the simple explanation.
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Mmmmm I'll have to remember that... That live rock or just plain rock
It's baserock but you can cycle a tank with only baserock and a small piece of liverock or a cup of sand. Basically anything to get the population of bacteria started
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It's baserock but you can cycle a tank with only baserock and a small piece of liverock or a cup of sand. Basically anything to get the population of bacteria started
Oh ok ... Still a good deal... I'll keep that in mind when I do my next tank
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Looks like Reefrocks is the way I will go. Won't break my budget for 7-8 pounds of rock and we can get our clown. Thanks all!
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