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Old 12-10-2012, 12:55 PM   #11
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No clowns don't need an anemone. And yeah my predator tank is a 55 but keep in mind all my fish are babies and when they start growing. A couple of them will be relocated to a 75.
Ahhh I see. What kind of filtration do you use?
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:57 PM   #12
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Well live rock and sand filtrate your water then I'm just running a decent skimmer. I use RODI water and stay up on my water changes and it works just fine.
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A sump with a skimmer would be a good filtration choice for you if you don't plan on upgrading soon.
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Good thread. It's nice to talk to somebody willing to take it slow.
I agree that a fish only system makes sense to start with. Corals are great, but do require you amp up everything to keep them happy.
That being said, many folks evolve into keeping corals at some point.

I had a 55 gallon predator tank that had a small trigger fish, snow flake moray (they aren't a eel...) and a small lion fish. They kept me entertained for years. Need a tight top for the moray as they love to jump. Used the "Berlin" filter method of live rock and a powerful protein skimmer. That was all that was required.
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Good thread. It's nice to talk to somebody willing to take it slow.
I agree that a fish only system makes sense to start with. Corals are great, but do require you amp up everything to keep them happy.
That being said, many folks evolve into keeping corals at some point.

I had a 55 gallon predator tank that had a small trigger fish, snow flake moray (they aren't a eel...) and a small lion fish. They kept me entertained for years. Need a tight top for the moray as they love to jump. Used the "Berlin" filter method of live rock and a powerful protein skimmer. That was all that was required.
Lol well I don't want y fish to die. They're pretty expensive. I think I'd like to try the Berlin filter method. Anyway I think corals would be cool once I have the money to spend on lighting and the organisms themselves.

How much should I spend on a good protein skimmer? 180? Also what would startup be looking like? I know I can research but id like to know from experience
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I have heard good things about the octopus skimmers. I build all my own stuff, so I would suggest a comment from somebody else.
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Puffers & Lionfish are not beginner fish. Though if you have the time and are willing to put forth the bit of extra effort, I'm sure everything will be fine.

For being beginner and for your size tank, I would recommend a set up similar to this. Look through the thread for some ideas

Tom's 55G Saltwater

Maybe start off FOWLR and add corals when you feel more comfortable and your tank is stable. There are some pretty easy corals to keep.

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Puffers & Lionfish are not beginner fish. Though if you have the time and are willing to put forth the bit of extra effort, I'm sure everything will be fine.

For being beginner and for your size tank, I would recommend a set up similar to this. Look through the thread for some ideas

Tom's 55G Saltwater

Maybe start off FOWLR and add corals when you feel more comfortable and your tank is stable. There are some pretty easy corals to keep.

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Well I like your advice of exercising caution with the puffers and lion fish. So it's got me
Thinking about maybe doing a
Community setup. Then segueing into a reef.
But here are some ideas for some fish.

Clownfish 1 or 2.
Fire fish 2
And perhaps a dotty back. I don't really know of the types of inverts or other fish I could add. But that seems pretty full for a 50 gallon to me. What do you guys think?
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That sounds good. You could add some shrimp, maybe a crab, there's a lot of cool inverts
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Glad to be of help!

Here is some useful links

How many fish can you keep in your tank?

"How Many Fish?" Aquarium Stock Level Calculator

Beginner Fish: Tropical Fish for Beginners in Saltwater Aquariums

Beginner Invertebrates: Invertebrates Suitable for Beginners in Saltwater Aquariums

I think having an assortment of colors, sizes, and swimming styles creates a dynamic and fun to watch tank.

Here is my personal favs/recommendations:
~1 Occ. Clown (I don't really see the point of having 2 of the same fish unless they are schooling or you want to breed them) and later when your tank is more stable you can try and get an LT Anemone and try to get it to host.
~Goby & Pistol Shrimp pair (They live together, it's super awesome to watch)
~1 Firefish (for the color and inexpensiveness)
~3 Blue/Green Chromis (They school!)

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