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Old 02-27-2005, 10:45 PM   #11
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fishfirst, this may be a stupid question, but what is a sump tank, do i need one? Im pretty sure it has something to do with filtration, but why do a lot of people have them, and why do i not need one.
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there are several different types of filtration... I suggested the one that I thought would be the best for you now with a FOWLR tank... a sump is a pretty good method of filteration... but if I was to suggest it I would rather suggest a refugium... (basically a sump with lights and living organisms in it) just something to consider (and research) for your possible reef system and look up while you are getting the hang of the FOWLR. I'm not quite sure about what the benefits of a sump are, but a refugium is a nitrate absorber. As for your skimmer and power head question... I would get the power head right away... wait for skimming after the cycle and wait to add the live rock after your nitrites have peaked. JMO though.
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Old 02-28-2005, 11:22 AM   #13
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can't wait to get this started, im so excited. Should i put the Liverock in right away? What about protein skimmer and powerheads?
How do you plan t cycle the tank. If you put in uncured LR, there should be enough die-off on it to start the cycle. You can also use a raw shrimp from the grocery store to kick things off.
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lando I thought it'd be best with the cocktail shrimp and leave the liverock til later so a lot of the stuff won't die off... we went over fishless cycling on the other forum I believe... I've preached about it so much I tend to forget if I told him or not hahah.
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Old 02-28-2005, 01:28 PM   #16
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lando I thought it'd be best with the cocktail shrimp and leave the liverock til later so a lot of the stuff won't die off...
That is a good plan depending on what type of LR you get. If it is uncured or needs to be re-cured, then cycling with the rock will be fine. If it is fully cured (like from the LFS or even liverocks.com) then it is good idea to "pre-cycle" the tank to preserve all of the wonderful life that comes in on the LR. Keep in mind that you will have to pay close attention to water parameters and do water changes as needed to protect the life on the LR. This can prolong your cycle but it is worth it.
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hey guys thanks for the advice, and yes i was planning on getting my liverock from liverocks.com. i will prob. add at least some liverock to get the cycle goin.
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