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Old 10-07-2009, 05:55 PM   #11
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If you don't want to use any live rock then I would plan using a wet/dry if you incorporate an overflow or use 1 or 2 canister filters along with a skimmer. As for fish there are many dwarf angels, fairy wrasses, clownfish, gobies/blennies, basslets, etc. As long as you don't stick a hippopotamus in there I think you'll be fine If you want an actual fish list to peak your interest let me know.
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Could you give a list for the fish please.Um...can I put any ornaments in there since I'm not using live rock.Also a 40 gallon breeder is ok.I really like R gramma and PJ cardinalfish!!
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Old 10-07-2009, 10:58 PM   #13
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x8 Pj cardinals
x1 Royal gramma
x2 Clarkii clownfish
x1 dwarf angel (Flame, Eible's, Lemonpeel, or Multibarred)
x1 Flameback angel (pygmy) *Usually will coincide with dwarf angels
x3 two-spot goby
x 4 McCosker's fairy wrasse (1 male, 3 female)
x1 White-spot Hawaiian puffer (Canthigaster jactator)

That should be one heck of an interesting mix I'd still opt for live rock and a skimmer at least
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Could you give a list for the fish please.Um...can I put any ornaments in there since I'm not using live rock.Also a 40 gallon breeder is ok.I really like R gramma and PJ cardinalfish!!
From what I have seen the ornaments look cool when you first put them in but when things start to grow in your tank they look dirty all the time. LR is the way to go. the more stuff that grows on it the cooler it looks. Also LR is not for looks only. It is part of the filtration system for your tank. If you are not going to use it you have to go to greater efforts with your external filtration.
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Thanks Innovator!I will use live rock;how many pounds?And a 40 gallon breeder is OK for all those fish you listed,right?Also thanks to mdaniel2882.Do they actually help filtration?What's a skimmer?
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I would start with 40lbs of live rock or 10lbs of live rock and 30lbs of base rock. Live rock does help with filtration.

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I'd personally start with 80lbs. of uncured live rock, which will also help start your cycle. As often as base rock is used because it's inexpensive, I rather pay more for "uncured" Fiji Premium and get something worth looking at.

Those fish will be fine as long as you start slow. Those that rush into the hobby rush just as quickly out of it from lack of patience
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I agree that LR and a skimmer is a good thing.
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a skimmer takes organic particles out of the water that are bad for the tank.
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