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Old 10-06-2004, 07:00 PM   #31
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dummies thing for 8 bucks........
so when i ever get a ride and get a load of money walla!
I hope you didn't mean that $8 is a load of money. To setup a 10g reef the initial cost will be around $300+ and that doesn't include the cost of live stock. But you can buy used equipment and stuff to save you some money.
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Old 10-06-2004, 07:41 PM   #32
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and you need to be starting with an absolute minimum of 30 gal for your first SW tank.
Sounds like something a LFS would say to a newbie to get them to spend more on a bigger tank.

There is really no minium or maximun tank size that a begginer should start with. Smaller the tank size the more difficult it is to maintain and to have stable water quality . There is less room for errors due to less volume of water of smaller tanks.

If you read, research, have patience, and a little bit of money you can be successful in this hobby even if you never done saltwater before.
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Old 10-06-2004, 10:24 PM   #33
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sorry klam i meant the book is eight and once i get a load of money i can get the equipment and stuff... and i was thinking of having a small 10 gal. for crying out loud 30 smallest? ive seen 1 gallon tanks!
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Old 10-06-2004, 11:05 PM   #34
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Because saltwater fish have a much lower tollerance for poor water conditions, it is very important to avoid large swings in the water conditions. It is much, much easier to keep large tanks stable. because of this, most people do not recommend anything less than a 55 gallon for beginners. However, if you are dedicated, you could get away with something as small as a 30 gallon tank.

10 gallon tanks are known as "nano reefs" and not recommended for first time SW aquarists. Also, you can only fit about 2 inches of fish in a ten gallon tank. This means your options are extremly limited. ( one damsel, chromi, or one clown.)

Salt water fish need alot more room then freshwater fish do.
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Old 10-07-2004, 01:18 PM   #35
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I swear I saw Big Al's up for sale on Ebay about a month ago
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Old 10-07-2004, 01:29 PM   #36
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It's not me, or an LFS saying 30 gal minimum... It's Mr. Fenner.

This guy is going to kill a bunch of fish.
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Old 10-07-2004, 01:37 PM   #37
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sorry klam i meant the book is eight and once i get a load of money i can get the equipment and stuff... and i was thinking of having a small 10 gal. for crying out loud 30 smallest? ive seen 1 gallon tanks!
You can do a 10g tank, however it takes a lot more work and planning to do so properly. As stated many times, the smaller tanks are more likely to experience flucuations. I am doing a 10g tank, and will be moving everything into a 15g in a couple weeks. The tank is going into a baby room, otherwise I would have got something bigger.

Here is some original planning I did for my 10g:

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I swear I saw Big Al's up for sale on Ebay about a month ago
um...I don't think they would sell a world famous strip club on Ebay.

At least without my knowing about it.
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Old 10-08-2004, 08:50 PM   #39
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You are not going to get far with that kind of attitude.If you think $30 for a book is alot,I have 5 tank setups,all with expensive wet dry filters and protein skimmers.And I am just a kid.So you are going to have to get use to spending hundreds of dollars.
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LOL Rocket,

I think Mr Crabs was referring to Big Al's Fish Store (of Canada) beign sold on eBay, not Big Al's Strip Club of Peoria, IL.

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