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Old 10-02-2011, 03:06 PM   #1
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Talking Shooters 100 gal. reef build plan

Ok the wife went out and bought a purple phsuedochromis last night, came home and said build the 100 gal reef but do it over time and I will help with the maintanance. LOL. Equipment Plan below:

100 gal tank, glass hood and oak stand to match her furniture> LOL
200 watts T 5 lighting half actinic
48 watts half and half (not sure about lighting so help with comments please)
LED moonlights
Filstar xp 3 cannister without biomedia. (mechanical filtration only)
Aquaripure biological denitrifier medium size
course marine grade sand ( I have crushed coral in my fowlr) Quantity?
50 lbs base rock
75 lbs live rock
300 watt heater
2- power heads 1100s I think or about that size.
1- 250 current pump (I already have)
Light timers

Comments please: did I miss something? I know most of you will suggest using a sump instead of the cannister but I am intrigiud by the aquaripure systems. I plan on keeping the fowlr going I think if I have room.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:08 PM   #2
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moonlights aren't necessary. if you want to barely see the tank in the middle of the night, buy them, but i think they are a waste of money.
i would pick a quality protein skimmer over the canister and denitrifier.
so, 248 watts of t5 total? what are the dimensions of this tank? is this a 5' tank? if so, i would probably want a 5' t5 fixture.
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:51 PM   #3
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moonlights aren't necessary. if you want to barely see the tank in the middle of the night, buy them, but i think they are a waste of money.
i would pick a quality protein skimmer over the canister and denitrifier.
so, 248 watts of t5 total? what are the dimensions of this tank? is this a 5' tank? if so, i would probably want a 5' t5 fixture.
Ya 248 watts. To little? How many watts would give me enoeph for any coral I wanted within reason? LOL.. I wanted some mechanical filtration along with the bio of the rock. The denitrifier I am looking at is the Aquaripure which to my understanding uses a bacteria charge that you dose with alchohol or sugar water once a week. I have been reading some lit on alchohol doseing benifits.

Vodka Dosing by 'Genetics' and 'Stony_Corals' - Reefkeeping.com

The theory sounds interesting. A protein skimmer is contraindicated if I use the Aquaripure. I am currently just researching and may go another route.
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if you want to keep sps, you'll want as near perfect water parameters as you can get. i would not rely on just carbon dosing to accomplish this. removal of organics is what i would focus on. anything that helps achieve this is a good thing. when i've vodka dosed, the protein skimmer, which was on the entire time, would double it's skimmate production. if i remember correctly, that article you linked says it's important to run one.
what bulbs are in this fixture that you are considering? T5's come 18, 24, 39, 54, and 80 watts. none of them evenly adds up to 248.
if it was me, and this tank was 5' x 18 or so inches, i would use 6 x 80 watt T5 ho over it.
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if you want to keep sps, you'll want as near perfect water parameters as you can get. i would not rely on just carbon dosing to accomplish this. removal of organics is what i would focus on. anything that helps achieve this is a good thing. when i've vodka dosed, the protein skimmer, which was on the entire time, would double it's skimmate production. if i remember correctly, that article you linked says it's important to run one.
what bulbs are in this fixture that you are considering? T5's come 18, 24, 39, 54, and 80 watts. none of them evenly adds up to 248.
if it was me, and this tank was 5' x 18 or so inches, i would use 6 x 80 watt T5 ho over it.
If I understand, you are suggesting 480 watts of T5. that is the info I was looking for and thanks. Yes the article suggests the skimmer. I understand that. If I use a Aquaripure filter they say do not run skimmer. It is a bit confusing but I am leaning towards a sump and skimmer but still considering all options.
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yes, but that's going by "being able to keep whatever you want". if you never venture towards sps, clams...etc, you could get away with 4 lamps.
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yes, but that's going by "being able to keep whatever you want". if you never venture towards sps, clams...etc, you could get away with 4 lamps.
Thank you so much. May I ask one last ? Will a 20 gal. sump service a 100 gal. tank. ??
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the sump is just for extra water volume, and to hold your components like your skimmer, and reactors..etc. knowing this, do you think it will be enough?
what i would do is decide on components. if you are going for a skimmer, which one? what is it's footprint? then pick a sump to accommodate.
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the sump is just for extra water volume, and to hold your components like your skimmer, and reactors..etc. knowing this, do you think it will be enough?
what i would do is decide on components. if you are going for a skimmer, which one? what is it's footprint? then pick a sump to accommodate.
Ah clarity in my old brain! I want my sump to do primarily 6 things;
Added volume. Some large particulate filtration, IE foam or floss pads I assume, a refug., protein skimming, and a return pump. Heater also

I am looking at one on ebay that is acrylic, has the deviders to accomodate these things and provides space for a small refuge. Am I now on the correct path?
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not unless you've researched your skimmer and it will fit!
it's cheapest to just buy a glass tank and silicone in partitions yourself. then you can put them exactly where necessary. a 40 breeder is a good size for a sump for your tank. good footprint.
where are you going to put it? under the dt in the stand?
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