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Old 12-06-2005, 06:51 PM   #1
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Sick Engineeer Goby

Hello All. Just a question about my engineer goby, he seems to have developed some growths around his mouth, they are white and look like pimples. He is eating fine, although he swims away when I come near the tank, so I can't get a really good look at the bumps. Levels are as follows:

Temp: 79
Amonia:0
Nitrites:0
PH: 8.2
Nitrates: 10
Salinity:1.022

Tankmates:

Coral banded shrimp x1
Clear Damsel x1
Feather Duster x1
Black urchin x1
Flame scallop x1
various snails
various hermit crabs

No pics available, sorry.

His behavior seems normal I just noticed that the bumps are clearly around his mouth, no where on his body just his mouth. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. TIA.

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Old 12-06-2005, 08:46 PM   #2
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How long have you had them (it)?

Could be a few issues. These guys are furious tunnelers and can get abrassions quite easily. This can lead to mild bacterial infections and common sores. There is also so possibility of running into a bristleworm occasionally.

I wouldn't worry too much just yet but definately keep an eye out if it gets worse. Do a few good water changes (several over the next week) with well aged/aerated SW to lower any possible DOC that may feed opportunistic bacteria and make sure the foods fed are fortified with a good marine liquid vitamin before use.

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Hello, and thanks for the reply.

I've had the goby since 11/12/05, and I am really enjoying him.

He has been tunneling here and there, he found a favorite spot under a rock and made himself a tight fitting tunnel. Lately though, he has been spending more time outside his tunnel and thats when I noticed the sores on his mouth. I have witnessed him picking up rocks and moving them one by one with his mouth.

I'll keep an eye on him and hope for the best, he seems to be pretty hardy and is still eating well...my QT tank is ready to go, should I QT him now?

Thanks, I appreciate all help.

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my QT tank is ready to go, should I QT him now? .
At this point there's no need from the info you've given so far. If the water changes are stepped up a bit and the foods fed are highly nutritious, the fish will recover just fine on it's own. Intervension is often not needed unless infection sets in and/or it progresses in severity.

This is something that will come up from time to time with fish like this so don't be alarmed if it returns in future. You can reduce the frequency by making sure water quality is at it's peak and the fish's immune system properly supported. If available, I would suggest cean Nutrition branded frozen foods. They contain Beta Glucan and will aid the fish in self healing.

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I've heard of several people using garlic in addition to feeding for better nutrition...can some one give me some insight into this. Is it specialized garlic, or minced or what...not sure. Thanks.
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Usually garlic extract like garlic extreme (very strong) but regular minced garlic will work.
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I guess I can try putting some of that in the tank...I use it to cook with often. Should I rinse it first or anything?? I've never put anything in my tank except food....

So just a pinch or so should do, you think?
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If you use the fresh garlic as apposed to the liquid extract, be very sure it is a fresh as possible and from a new clove. Do not use the pre minced store bought. You don't know how old it is or exactly what preservative/process used in making it.

Take a new clove of garlic and crush it. Place it in a small shallow dish with the food for that days feeding and add some tank water. Allow to soak in the fridge (preferabley covered) for a few hours to overnight. Remove the garlic before feeding drain the excess water to remove phosphorus and feed the tank.

Alternately if making your own blender mush, the galic can be "pureed" right along with the other ingredients. This method will have greater impact in terms of health benefits.

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Thanks Steve!! I appreciate the help. He is still sad looking at times, hanging out at the bottom of the tank...and not moving much. But other times, he is up and moving all over the tank, so much so, he moved my thermometer! I hope the garlic will help...he is a tough little guy and is not giving up easily. So I don't want to give up on him. Thanks again!!!
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He is still sad looking at times, hanging out at the bottom of the tank...and not moving much.
Actually this is pretty common for this species. They are very "shy" and react quickly to movement. They rarely venture out. Watch from a distance where they cannot see you or any movement outside the tank. Most likely you will see a bit more activity.

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But other times, he is up and moving all over the tank,
Watch this kind of behavior and be sure the tank top is protected from fish jumping. More commonly when these guys do this they are looking for "greener pastures". You've only had them about a month so they may not have completely settled in.

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